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re: Aircraft Owned by Major Texas Boosters Crashes in Maine (6 killed)
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:07 pm to BoKnowsAUOne
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:07 pm to BoKnowsAUOne
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There is, but most planes - especially multi-engine - have de-icing equipment on board to battle while alof
De-ice is on the ground. Anti-ice is inflight.
Multi or single engine doesn’t make yeh difference. It is how the plane is equipped. The PC-12 is a single engine and has anti-ice. So does the TBM and SR-22. All are single engine that can fly into known icing
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:27 pm to RedFoxx
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De-ice is on the ground. Anti-ice is inflight.
True, unless you are talking about de-icing boots which can add to the confusion of the terms.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:32 pm to Traveler
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True, unless you are talking about de-icing boots which can add to the confusion of the terms
True. Also correct.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:29 pm to RedFoxx
From Daily Mail continuing coverage
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Event planner Shawna Collins was also killed in the tragedy, ABC 13 reports. Her daughter said she had spoken to her mother ahead of the flight on Sunday and Collins was excited about the upcoming business trip to Europe.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:45 am to RedFoxx
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Multi or single engine doesn’t make yeh difference. It is how the plane is equipped. The PC-12 is a single engine and has anti-ice. So does the TBM and SR-22. All are single engine that can fly into known icing
How does anti-ice work in the air but they can’t use it on the ground?
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:52 am to baldona
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How does anti-ice work in the air but they can’t use it on the ground?
Some planes have like a rubber boot on the edge of the wing and it inflates and breaks up ice.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:08 am to DustyDinkleman
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While this is true, not many 91 or 135 carriers are going to choose JFK for a fueling stop. That’s some of the most congested airspace in the world, and fuel prices at the FBO are astronomical as a deterrent.
I was just pointing this out because it’s been said a few times now that Bangor has the longest runway on the east coast. It does not.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:35 am to Lou Loomis
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I would think there is a danger at high altitudes where it’s very cold.
At typical cruise altitudes (35000 and above) where the temperatures average -50c and colder we don’t worry about ice. -40C is a common temperature used for guidance of use of engine anti-ice at cruise.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:31 am to baldona
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How does anti-ice work in the air but they can’t use it on the ground?
Some of the smaller planes have what is known as a TKS system which essentially weeps anti ice fluid from small holes on the leading edge of wings and props. Its essentially antifreeze that needs to be spread by the wind in flight. You only have X amount of minutes of use so its not something that stays on every flight unless its known icing conditions.
Im not familiar with what small jets and commercial liners use other than boots.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:33 am to SlowFlowPro
I’ll take gynecomastia for 8 billion dollars
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:59 am to Lou Loomis
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these guys will probably sue everyone from beyond. These types of lawyers are dirt bags. Their job is legal extortion and wealth transfer from producers in this country. They make everything more expensive for the rest of us.
I agree with you on the premise of PI work. Also, PI lawyers tend to be big donors to liberals. Not because they care about liberal causes, but because liberals will change the laws to be more lawsuit friendly.
But I don’t think it’s appropriate for anyone to celebrate this sort of event.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 11:08 am to LSU4eva1
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I’ll take gynecomastia for 8 billion dollars
You could probably get it cut out for like 10 K cash.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:03 pm to Zakatak
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Im not familiar with what small jets and commercial liners use other than boots.
Most jet aircraft use bleed air from the engines which is ducted to and blows hot air across the critical surfaces.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:07 pm to Zakatak
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Im not familiar with what small jets and commercial liners use other than boots.
do some airliners not use heated air from the engines to heat the leading edges?
I know we were taxiing at ATL headed to New York (Dec 26th) and had to return to gate because the anti ice system didn't work. trying to clear it up, they just revved that engine up to high power but to no avail. the pilot said because of where we were going, we had to cancel.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:53 pm to H2O Tiger
Posted on 1/27/26 at 4:39 pm to possumlover
Vasa has an ATC update vid
LINK
Interesting that two crews reported the de-ice application didn't really work and Allegiant was going to de-ice again before the business jet crashed.
Going to be interesting for the de-ice crew. And the airport was close to minimums for the Allegiant plane so maybe a rush to get out for the business jet?
LINK
Interesting that two crews reported the de-ice application didn't really work and Allegiant was going to de-ice again before the business jet crashed.
Going to be interesting for the de-ice crew. And the airport was close to minimums for the Allegiant plane so maybe a rush to get out for the business jet?
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 1/27/26 at 5:03 pm to real turf fan
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Event planner Shawna Collins was also killed in the tragedy, ABC 13 reports. Her daughter said she had spoken to her mother ahead of the flight on Sunday and Collins was excited about the upcoming business trip to Europe.
I'm guessing she told her daughter (who I assume is younger in age) that it was a business trip, instead of telling her it was a fun girls getaway trip.
Sad all the way around. There are now several children that no longer have their mommy.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:30 pm to ColoradoAg03
It was a "business trip" because "girls trip to Paris" isn't a legitimate business expense.
It's not rocket science.
It's not rocket science.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:59 pm to GeauxTigers123
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don’t think it’s appropriate for anyone to celebrate this sort of event.
I wasn’t celebrating it at all. Definitely wasn’t when it turned out to be one of the women from the firm and her friends. That’s a terrible tragedy and very sad. I did say that if it was a bunch of the lawyers that I wouldn’t be too upset. That was after all the fawning posts on here. They’re legalized thieves. And it’s because like you said, their Democrat friends make the laws that allow it.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:02 pm to DustyDinkleman
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Most jet aircraft use bleed air from the engines which is ducted to and blows hot air across the critical surfaces.
Makes perfect sense. Thanks for the response.
Signed: a piston engine slacker
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