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re: Aircraft Owned by Major Texas Boosters Crashes in Maine (6 killed)
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:28 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:28 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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JFK (New York): Runway 13R/31L is often cited as one of the longest on the East Coast, around 14,500 ft, primarily for heavy cargo/long-haul, notes Aviation Stack Exchange and Bigorre.org.
While this is true, not many 91 or 135 carriers are going to choose JFK for a fueling stop. That’s some of the most congested airspace in the world, and fuel prices at the FBO are astronomical as a deterrent.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:00 pm to DustyDinkleman
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FK (New York): Runway 13R/31L is often cited as one of the longest on the East Coast, around 14,500 ft, primarily for heavy cargo/long-haul, notes Aviation Stack Exchange and Bigorre.org.
While this is true, not many 91 or 135 carriers are going to choose JFK for a fueling stop. That’s some of the most congested airspace in the world, and fuel prices at the FBO are astronomical as a deterrent.
runway length isn't much of a factor here, logistically, Bangor is a better fuel stop for aircraft with limited endurance in either direction
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:00 pm to H2O Tiger
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:02 pm to SWLA92
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They were only in Bangor for an hour. I have no knowledge of icing on planes but would only being at the airport for an hour cause alot of ice accumulation?
The critical time of snow/ice accumulation is after de-icing has occurred and before takeoff (holdover time).
The pilots requested type I and type IV de-icing fluid. That should give them a safe holdover time of at least 30 minutes for the weather at the time.
8 minutes passed between de-icing being complete and the beginning of takeoff.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:14 pm to RedFoxx
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The pilots requested type I and type IV de-icing fluid. That should give them a safe holdover time of at least 30 minutes for the weather at the time. 8 minutes passed between de-icing being complete and the beginning of takeoff.
Bad fluid?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:20 pm to diat150
yes that is her. Very pretty woman.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:22 pm to 777Tiger
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runway length isn't much of a factor here, logistically, Bangor is a better fuel stop for aircraft with limited endurance in either direction
They posted that in response to my post about the plane crashing before it left the end of the runway
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:28 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
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The pilots requested type I and type IV de-icing fluid. That should give them a safe holdover time of at least 30 minutes for the weather at the time. 8 minutes passed between de-icing being complete and the beginning of takeoff.
Bad fluid?
an Allegiant airlines plane tried to take off right before them but turned back and the pilot told a breeze airline pilot :
After informing air traffic control that they intended to try de-icing again, the Allegiant crew was contacted by a Breeze crew asking whether they had failed a pre-flight contamination check.
“We were at end of runway but the visibility dropped and it stuck to us like there was nothing there,” the Allegiant crew responded, seemingly suggesting the visibility delay reduced the effectiveness of the de-icing.
LINK
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:29 pm to H2O Tiger
Other than old age, cancer and heart disease it seems like small airplane crashes are a disproportionately likely way for rich people to die.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:37 pm to MAROON
If the information from the commercial airlines is accurate, seems like bad fluid (is that even a thing), poor application, or massive decrease in conditions in minutes.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:38 pm to MAROON
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an Allegiant airlines plane tried to take off right before them but turned back and the pilot told a breeze airline pilot :
After informing air traffic control that they intended to try de-icing again, the Allegiant crew was contacted by a Breeze crew asking whether they had failed a pre-flight contamination check.
Fricking A. Pilots may have saved a lot of lives. Throws the idea that it was "normal weather" for that airport out.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:39 pm to baldona
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Throws the idea that it was "normal weather" for that airport out.
just googled the wx at the time of their takeoff last night, honestly looks pretty "normal" for them this time of the year
Posted on 1/26/26 at 2:57 pm to molsusports
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Other than old age, cancer and heart disease
All related.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:22 pm to H2O Tiger
They recently got caught by the 5th Circuit citing a fake case made up by AI.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:33 pm to tLSU
Good response to a bad situation.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:34 pm to CapitalTiger
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the information from the commercial airlines is accurate, seems like bad fluid (is that even a thing), poor application, or massive decrease in conditions in minutes.
Freezing fog? That shite is nasty.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:35 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
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Good response to a bad situation
why not AI? seems like you can find case law to support any argument if you keep digging
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:37 pm to 777Tiger
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why not AI?
Because it hallucinates cases. See above.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:37 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
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Because it hallucinates cases. See above.
like many lawyers?
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