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re: AI companies are buying rare books, cutting the spine off to scan, then shredding them

Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38954 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:09 am to
The whole of AI is a completely unethical enterprise.

But - this country (and the world) are not ready to give up convenience and efficiency for any reason.

So - nothing will happen.

Buy your books, go get torrents of old books at the very least. And keep it all.

That is the only way to distance yourself from it.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12312 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:14 am to
When I read the beginning words, I assumed that they would just be copying nonfiction.
The fiction mills nowadays have a market, but is there a single writer who will be the next Charles Dickens or even produce the next Arthur Conon Doyle?
IF the machines scan all the mysteries written, how many story lines will be found? Which are better sellers in which countries? And then, translate it and sell it as new? Who would notice?

The scientific journals deserve protection because as bases of science, people will need to know what happened, when and why.
Look at the ongoing discussion of the first patient with AIDS and then the ones before him.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63582 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:19 am to
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Fahrenheit 451 right in front of our eyes



Exactly what I was thinking….how easy would it be to flip a switch and censor whole classes of literature.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38954 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:21 am to
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When I read the beginning words, I assumed that they would just be copying nonfiction.
The fiction mills nowadays have a market, but is there a single writer who will be the next Charles Dickens or even produce the next Arthur Conon Doyle?
IF the machines scan all the mysteries written, how many story lines will be found? Which are better sellers in which countries? And then, translate it and sell it as new? Who would notice?



OpenAI/Anthropics goal is to own all content (really it's everything, but that's a different conversation).

You don't need Clive Cussler or Dean Koontz writing when AI can spit out 50 Cussler clones in 10 minutes.



That's a nightmare world. Whatever you believe or not, there is a place and part of humanity in Cussler, Koontz and all the other paperback writers who can actually churn out human stories.



quote:

Who would notice?


There we go, part of the problem.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57898 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:34 am to
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do we really want them to not have the knowledge of how many they killed?

You have a valid point, but I don't know how having the originals changes anything. It's not like the common guy can get a hold of the original.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
27473 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:43 am to
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I don’t mind the practice, but we should pass a law mandating that destroying rare books requires the perpetrator to make digital copied accessible to all.



So someone can go and change the content of the book because some of it may be seen as "problematic" by some future wokester? No thanks.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
16287 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 12:01 pm to
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Who holds the past now, controls the future. Who holds the present now, controls the past. Who controls the past now, controls the future. Who controls the present now. Now testify!


frick those pieces of shite.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
39081 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 12:24 pm to
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You have a valid point, but I don't know how having the originals changes anything. It's not like the common guy can get a hold of the original.


no but if there are no copies left and the only ones are digital and in AI.....the narrative is then 100% controlled by AI and its creators.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4322 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 12:40 pm to
Seems weird

Why? You can get many classics on pdf
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17805 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 6:54 pm to
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You can get many classics on pdf

Project Gutenberg has 78k free books. Most of the idiots in this thread haven't bought a physical book since they failed out of UNO or ULL. I started going back to paper books for critical stuff like Thomas Sowell tomes, etc. in 2020 when Netflix started removing content I'd already bought.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4322 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 11:34 pm to
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started going back to paper books for critical stuff like Thomas Sowell tomes, etc. in 2020 when Netflix started removing content I'd already bought.


Same here. Depending on the book, I will also have an audio for the car, but 100% of the time I have a physical copy and most of them are hardback.

For the classics, fiction we’ve read with the kids when they were younger like Tolkien or Lewis, and history and economics I’ll always get a hardback copy.

My daughter starts AP government this year and the hardback federalist and anti federalist copies arrived a few days ago.

Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26727 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 6:38 am to
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My Rent is still due Monday coming buddy. Dont have time for this.



You traded the shot for a donut didn't you.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
3988 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 10:21 am to
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You traded the shot for a donut didn't you.


I didnt have a choice at the Institutation I worked at.
It was take the shot. Or go find work else where.
2 years later it wasnt required.

I got the 2 - Part shot. But I was able to push it off 12 months between the 1st and 2nd.

I should have bought the fake cards, they were selling on Ebay.
This post was edited on 7/31/26 at 10:27 am
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