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After this passes, every nation needs to massively expand healthcare provision capacity

Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74727 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:01 pm
I don’t care if it is “inefficient” and expensive to have tons of empty rooms and unused critical care machines lying around on any given average day. Because, as we see right now, it’s always possible for a black swan to swoop in and shite all over “average”

That “inefficiency” sure as hell beats what countries are doing now to prevent hospitals from overflowing.

If Italy had 5-6x as big a health infrastructure as it does now, people wouldn’t be imprisoned in their own homes for weeks.
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
6378 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:02 pm to
Ok Boomer
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:03 pm to
Bernie, is that you?

Who is going to pay for all this?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:03 pm to
I’ll redirect all costs to your account.

TTFYS.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40998 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:03 pm to
How inefficient are we cool with?

Who is going to maintain all those empty rooms and HVACs, etc?

All the machines that become obsolete and unused?

That isn't a de minimis amount of money we're talking about here.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6795 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:04 pm to
Infrastructure that sits around being unused will mostly turn into rubbish over time.
Posted by LSUGolfman
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2019
184 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:22 pm to
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Ok Boomer


That's not likely the post of a boomer. Boomers don't think everyone should be cared for by the government all the time. The pattern of thought expressed by the original poster is much more likely that of a socialist moron who thinks all contingencies should be prepared for by the government. Should we also spend trillions to prepare for an asteroid strike? Let nature take its course. A good pandemic is beneficial for the overall gene pool.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6599 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:29 pm to
No they don’t dumbass they need to revisit the FDA old as hell restrictions.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
18487 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Because, as we see right now, it’s always possible for a black swan to swoop in and shite all over “average”
I realize this is new to Gen Y/Z but black swans are part of existence.

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If Italy had 5-6x as big a health infrastructure as it does now, people wouldn’t be imprisoned in their own homes for weeks.
Or they could just not have the oldest population in Europe who all smokes a frick ton in a densely-populated country.

Inefficiently spent infrastructure is a decent chunk of Italy's absurd debt-to-GDP ratio. Only Greece has a higher ratio in Europe.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:31 pm to
A Black swan event, by definition, is impossible to plan for.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39244 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

If Italy had


If my grandmother had wheels she’d be a bike
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16221 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:32 pm to
Healthcare is about making money and they can't make money with empty beds.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14339 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:37 pm to
No, every nation should drastically reduce its ties to and dependence upon China. Or this won't be the last time we have to deal with this kind of thing from them.
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2600 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:40 pm to
Meanwhile, when this is over and we have all this unused healthcare sitting around, can we get some help for the mental pts, the vets, etc. or fix some roads, like things we need everyday vs every I don’t know, every 20 years or so!
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36419 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

If Italy had 5-6x as big a health infrastructure as it does
”If...” ok, fine... they want to increase their health infrastructure by 5-6 fold; cool.

And now who pays for that exactly?

The people’s taxes? The people in this country almost well full retard over a program that offered just “more affordable” healthcare... let alone Canadian style “full coverage”.

It’s all great to play the “what if” game, but when the meat hits the metal, no one wants to pony up and since politicians are beholden to their constituents, none of them would even attempt to float it through legislation... at least that’s the case here at home, I can’t imagine another democratic government like Italy would be any different.

Time to stop trying to stop nature from taking its course and accept that not everyone should be here alive.

Posted by Oneforthemoney
A town near you, la
Member since Dec 2013
2558 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:32 am to
Cool, get off the pot and donate 80% of your monthly paycheck. Practice what you preach with your money rather than other people's money.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56210 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:33 am to
China says don't worry, we don't need hospitals here in the USA. We can send our sick people to China hospitals.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57530 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:38 am to
As soon as you expand all kinds of equipment, a black swan event will come along that requires other stuff. We have plenty of stuff. What we need are market incentives for companies that will fill our emergency needs. Pay a million dollars per ventilator delivered within the next five weeks, and you’ll have more that you can use. That’s way cheaper than your stupid Bernie solution, and it works for everything.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 10:39 am
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104477 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:43 am to
quote:

I don’t care if it is “inefficient” and expensive to have tons of empty rooms and unused critical care machines lying around on any given average day. Because, as we see right now, it’s always possible for a black swan to swoop in and shite all over “average”


I work in design and construction management for a large hospital. If there was money available we would have been adding every hospital bed possible long before this Covid-19 was a thing. It wouldn't be wasted.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14570 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:44 am to
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That's not likely the post of a boomer. Boomers don't think everyone should be cared for by the government all the time.


Lmao tell a boomer you are ending Medicare and Social Security and watch their melts. Boomers and socialists are basically the same, Boomers are just too scared to say what they really are.
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