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re: After the Doolittle raid, Japan killed more Chinese than the US lost servicemen
Posted on 9/20/25 at 8:52 am to bad93ex
Posted on 9/20/25 at 8:52 am to bad93ex
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How Japan got off seemingly scot free from the atrocities that they committed before and during WWII is a mystery.
Good video from Knowing Better on the topic
“Playing The Victim”
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 8:53 am to Gee Grenouille
No mystery, Dugout Doug wanted to run the country & keep the Emperor 's cooperation, such as it was needed. Americans hated the Japanese, but Dugout could have cared less. The Jews had nothing to do with that policy.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 8:55 am to weagle1999
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Japan was angry after the raid by the US in WW2 and the closest Ally country it could take its anger out on was China.
Japan was already at war with China (Second Sino-Japanese War) and they were killing Chinese before the Doolittle raids
The Chinese knew they would be severely punished for assisting the raiders and still helped hide the Doolittle Raiders and help them escape after they landed. Japan retaliated by killing entire villages of people - women and children included. They also raped kids and elderly before killing them.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 8:55 am to HattiesburgTiger5439
quote:I know it’s game day, but damn Son slow down on the firewater this early. It’s a marathon not a sprint
I was like baby they hate those people for what they did to there people. And she felt china and left her husband there and says frick chinas polluted arse. And will never go back, but fuxk the Japanese double
Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:18 am to Beessnax
quote:I think their atrocities are justification for the bombs. Especially since no one had used them before. Also, the fire bombings caused more death and destruction than the nukes. That’s just not as sensational for the Americabad crowd. To be frank, when you’re at war there’s very little that needs justification imo.
We would have had to justify dropping not one but two nuclear weapons
Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:20 am to weagle1999
They also ate US service men because they believed that it would give them the persons strength
Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:34 am to weagle1999
I watched a lot of good documentaries lately on the Pacific War. I think the US won that war with industrial power. Japan just couldn’t keep up. We were cranking out so much we just overwhelmed them. The documentary I saw on Grumman F6F Hellcat was very eye opening. The Japanese Zeros didn’t have a chance. They had pilots at the end that were basically just boys with next to no training at the end.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:37 am to Sofaking2
If you are interested in this topic, I highly recommend the Ian Toll books on the war in the Pacific. The definitive works IMO.
This post was edited on 9/20/25 at 9:37 am
Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:37 am to weagle1999
Back around 2010, I was in China working on a mfg deal - not entirely of my own free will, but that's another story. Like all foreigners, I had a driver everywhere I went. One morning, I had about a 2 hour drive from Shanghai out to the plant, and on that day, I shared a minivan with several mid-level and executive types from the company I was working with.
On the way out of town, we saw huge pavilions for what I recall was the World's Fair or something like that. Among the biggest was Japan's country pavilion, a huge dome that you could see for some distance. I made the casual remark that I was mildly surprised that China would allow Japan to have such a large pavilion. One of the guys translated my comment to the others in the van, as usual. A discussion in Chinese began and I zoned out, watching the countryside. About an hour in, it got fairly animated, but I figured it was the usual Chinese being Chinese with each other over some minor plant issue.
After we arrived at the plant and got out of the van, my main translator leaned over and quietly said "You really started something with that comment about the Japanese, they were fighting about it for the entire two hours! Half the van wanted to forget the past and do business, the other half still wants to kill Japanese!"
All that to say, there is no uniformity of opinion even in the heart of Chinese industry.
On the way out of town, we saw huge pavilions for what I recall was the World's Fair or something like that. Among the biggest was Japan's country pavilion, a huge dome that you could see for some distance. I made the casual remark that I was mildly surprised that China would allow Japan to have such a large pavilion. One of the guys translated my comment to the others in the van, as usual. A discussion in Chinese began and I zoned out, watching the countryside. About an hour in, it got fairly animated, but I figured it was the usual Chinese being Chinese with each other over some minor plant issue.
After we arrived at the plant and got out of the van, my main translator leaned over and quietly said "You really started something with that comment about the Japanese, they were fighting about it for the entire two hours! Half the van wanted to forget the past and do business, the other half still wants to kill Japanese!"
All that to say, there is no uniformity of opinion even in the heart of Chinese industry.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 10:00 am to weagle1999
How many Chinese did Mao kill after this?
Posted on 9/20/25 at 10:11 am to dallastigers
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Mao
Funny, we don’t get movies about him either.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 10:38 am to SammyTiger
Just watching tapes of the bombers taking off from the aircraft carrier gives me chills.
These guys risked everything to provide the US with a spark. Some survived only yo be caught and totured. Others got home safe, but of course some died.
These guys risked everything to provide the US with a spark. Some survived only yo be caught and totured. Others got home safe, but of course some died.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 12:18 pm to weagle1999
My grandfather worked on the Doolittle engines, we have a letter somewhere in the family of Doolittle personally thanking all the mechanics involved in building/tuning the engines.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 12:30 pm to SammyTiger
When i moved to Houma in 2010 I went to Hobby Lobby to get something framed. The woman in front of me was holding a photo album of all the pilots from the Doolittle Raid with all of them having signed and added personal notes. I was in awe
Posted on 9/20/25 at 12:35 pm to jmarto1
that’s awesome.
they do a really cool ting we’re all the survivors
meet once a year for a toast and to flip the cups of any who died.
My neighbor said Doolittle was the most charismatic person he had ever met.
they do a really cool ting we’re all the survivors
meet once a year for a toast and to flip the cups of any who died.
My neighbor said Doolittle was the most charismatic person he had ever met.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 12:50 pm to HattiesburgTiger5439
The Chinese lost 1.6 million in the 2nd Sino-Japanese war, which started in 1937, so even before Doolittle's raid, there was a tremendous loss of life. This was really the start of WW2.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 12:52 pm to bad93ex
quote:
How Japan got off seemingly scot free from the atrocities that they committed before and during WWII is a mystery.
The Fat Man and The Little Boy say hold my Sake.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 1:22 pm to bad93ex
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How Japan got off seemingly scot free from the atrocities that they committed before and during WWII is a mystery.
The lawyer Truman put in charge of the war crimes tribunal was a severe alcoholic who was visibly drunk throughout and messed everything up. Some of the other international officials working on it became so frustrated that they quit to avoid career embarrassment.
It was basically the opposite of the Nuremberg trials.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 4:04 pm to bad93ex
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How Japan got off seemingly scot free from the atrocities that they committed before and during WWII is a mystery.
In those years China was almost entirely agricultural. Their population was on small farms scattered all over a wide geographic area. What Japan did wasn’t immediately known and the scope wasn’t apparent until much later. By then the United States was well down its path of reconciliation with Japan.
Oh, and nobody cared because…Chinese.
And also, they didn’t control the media in the states. Like somebody we know..
This post was edited on 9/20/25 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 9/20/25 at 4:20 pm to weagle1999
quote:As the son of a Okinawa combat veteran, I’m obliged to say this is a silly contention for a thread.
After the Doolittle raid, Japan killed more Chinese than the US lost servicemen in the Pacific
My father did not risk his life for silly thread contention.
That is all.
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