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re: ADHD Meds are going out of stock everywhere

Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64963 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:54 pm to
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Let's be real, she suggested, but she's no doctor. And just because an arse whipping worked for you doesn't mean it would work for all kids. Evidently yours never had ADHD.


That’s the problem. Of course I didnt accept the teacher’s diagnosis. But I’m pretty sure I’m the exception and not the rule. There are probably millions of kids on this country over the past 20-30 years who’s first steps on the ADHD meds roller coaster was a result of their teacher suggesting to their parents to have them “checked out”. And funny how almost every kid who gets checked out, especially boys, turn out to be diagnosed with ADHD and relegated to a life of mood altering drugs.


I’m not saying ADHD isn’t real. What I am saying is it’s grossly over-diagnosed. There’s multiple generations of people today in this country who have been on ADHD meds for decades who never should have been prescribed them in the first place.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 3:55 pm
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29061 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:57 pm to
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I’m not saying ADHD isn’t real. What I am saying is it’s grossly over-diagnosed.



this is my complaint. i'm not saying it's not real. it is.

but a lot of things that a doctor would love to write an RX for could probably be fixed with a mild arse chewing and redirecting of focus.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7606 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:07 pm to
switch to meth, problem solved
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
31023 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:08 pm to
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I sympathize, but I doubt the Ritalin made her gay, lol. I have serious reservations about it making her obese as well. And she was born to be a borderline midget.



You dont have to sympathize with these fricks that have no idea what they are talking about.
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7071 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:10 pm to
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I’m not saying ADHD isn’t real. What I am saying is it’s grossly over-diagnosed.


Absolutely. Drug the kids up and then put a frickin tablet in there face the rest of the day after they get home from school. Makes me sick.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Last time I was in Mexico you couldn't get uppers in the pharmacy. Only downers.


bummer
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27879 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:22 pm to
They are over diagnosed and its general family practice doctors to blame.

If you or your kid aren't going to a psychiatrist that specializes in ADHD and does thorough testing, then it's not a true diagnosis.

Andrew Huberman did the best ADHD podcast I've ever heard. Everything from chemical breakdown of the brain, meds, long term effects, historical ADHD studies, etc.

Huberman Pod
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2448 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:22 pm to
My your started with Ritalin...not good at all...when Adderall came to market it changed everything for the better..for about 10 years it helped to get through a rigorous academic private school. The day he graduated, I took them away..no withdrawal symptoms. Every child is different..it worked for him. FYI..I took some to understand the physical effects.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
1638 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:29 pm to
Threads like this are depressing. My nephew is autistic with adhd. Great kid, not hyper, very very awkward social skills, horrible focus, but his grades are starting to get bad after doing so well. He can’t study at all on his own. Always made As but just went off what he knew. My brother is battling hard not wanting him on meds but now that his grades are failing, nephew is also having bad thoughts constantly about himself, it’s scary. May be the nicest kid I’ve ever known, he’s 12.

Pediatrician told them to go as long as they can without getting on meds but he told them at some point his grades will start being impacted or he could look to other things like drugs to feel normal. My brother is pretty down about it and doesn’t know what to do. Psychologist also recommended meds
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 4:30 pm
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27879 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:30 pm to
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she immediately began weight gain


VERY uncommon on ADHD stimulants, especially at the beginning.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13257 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:39 pm to
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ADHD Meds are going out of stock everywhere
yep, see post entitled "What's Going on in Livingston Parish? Dead Bodies Showing Up Everywhere" to complete the circle.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65368 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:51 pm to
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If you or your kid aren't going to a psychiatrist that specializes in ADHD and does thorough testing, then it's not a true diagnosis.

Yeah, I was tested by a psychologist in 8th grade and the testing was two days long. Then I get to college and see people left and right getting prescriptions for ADD meds after an eval that amounted to nothing more than a telehealth type examination.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
18253 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:52 pm to
Good. Maybe parents it will stop a few lazy parents from taking the easy route while fricking up their kids for life.
Posted by Roux22
Member since Jan 2023
350 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 4:57 pm to
I have mixed feelings about this. My oldest is 9 and is on vyvanse.
My wife has her doctrine in early childhood development so the decision to put him on medicine was very well researched and monitored by her.

He was your normal kid. Very active. Always moving. Loud and playful.
None of this was an issue until he was in school.
He could not follow simple directions from his teachers or us at home. I am talking about as simple as “Go get some socks” he would head to his room and if at all distracted along the way he would 100% forget what the task was. Think about this same situation but under a school setting; following test directions or reading a paragraph and following up were impossible.
We also found that these challenges and random “failures” had him super emotional. He would cry for freaking everything. His two younger siblings would not show a single emotion over the same situation.

We trust or pediatric clinic greatly. The doctor did not just put him on medicine. He made us try several things over months first.

Fast forward to the decision to try medicine. Adderrall made him miserable. Emotions heightened x10. Tried another medicine and it also was a failure.

We ended up with him on vyvanse. So far it has simplified things for him.
His emotions are in check and his focus is wayyyy better when he’s on it. He is not a zombie or out of it.

However, it hasn’t come without issues. Yes, it has slowed him down. He is not as active. When he wakes up he is a wrecking ball of energy. He is hungry. He is goofy and all over. An hour after taking the vyvanse he is chilled out and I guess “normal”. You can give him tasks and he will follow and complete them.
He normally doesn’t eat much until the late afternoon. His weight initially went down and has now stayed the same which isn’t good when you are supposed to be growing.

Overall I'm not sure how to feel. Should he be allowed to be non medicated and quite hyper active? Are we changing the real him?
Are we helping him by slowing his brain down so that he can be on the same wavelength as his peers?

I can tell you that it is NOT an easy decision for a parent and no matter what decision you make there is a mass of people who will completely disagree with you.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
1638 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 5:05 pm to
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Overall I'm not sure how to feel. Should he be allowed to be non medicated and quite hyper active? Are we changing the real him? Are we helping him by slowing his brain down so that he can be on the same wavelength as his peers?


Yep, as I posted above it’s tormenting my brother and sister n law. They didn’t want my nephew on meds but see they may need to now. Plus he has autism (high functioning) and that adds some difficulty to it
Posted by daydranking
nunya
Member since Sep 2019
457 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 5:10 pm to
i guess its back to cigarettes for me.

i wonder if i can still buy my old menthols...
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114105 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:06 pm to
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Find a local Mom & Pop, or a hospital retail pharmacy: they will make sure to keep supply on hand for you.


Not exactly true. If you are a repeat customer they will prioritize you over walk ins when they get meds in.

Pharmacies are getting them, its just limited
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18968 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:12 pm to
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One of my son’s teachers suggested putting him on them in about third grade because he was “fidgety” and “talkative” in class

Bitch thought she was a doctor
Unfortunately, there are many doctors that do take this route
I’m not against prescribing ADHD drugs, but it better be after making sure proper diet, exercise, and sleep habits have been incorporated, without success.
And yeah…. Some proper discipline absolutely helps.
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
3575 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:24 pm to
Good, legal meth is not a good thing.
Posted by phunkatron
Member since Jun 2019
1444 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:24 pm to
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They’re all just pharma branded amphetamines.



While you're not wrong, there is a vastly different side effect profile for the pharma brands that contain levoamphetamine vs. street meth.

You're probably gonna have a really bad time trying to meth binge with Adderall.
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