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72 Philly police officers on leave over “racist” FB posts

Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:04 am
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:04 am
So my question is - Should FB posts made when off duty be held against officers when they come to work? And is there a line between what is allowable and what isn’t? Never mind the question of why these idiots have public FB pages in this day and age.

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Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard Ross confirmed Wednesday that 72 Philadelphia police officers were placed on administrative duty amid an internal investigation into alleged anti-Muslim social media posts made by officers on the force.

Ross said the officers were taken off patrol duty and had their guns confiscated as the Internal Affairs Bureau (IAB) investigates approximately 3,100 total posts, Philadelphia’s Fox 29 reported. He could not confirm if more officers would be placed on administrative duty as the investigation continues, but he does expect “several dozen” of the seventy-two officers to be disciplined and at least some to be fired.

The posts were uncovered by a team of researchers who spent two years looking at the personal Facebook accounts of police officers from Arizona to Florida. They said they found officers bashing immigrants and Muslims, promoting racist stereotypes, identifying with right-wing militia groups and, especially, glorifying police brutality. All the posts were public.

The Philadelphia Police Department is set to hire an independent law firm to analyze the posts of each officer placed on administrative duty to see if the posts are constitutionally protected by the First Amendment’s guarantee of freedom of speech. If any of the posts are not protected by the First Amendment, the department will take action accordingly


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Posted by fr33manator
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Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:07 am to
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Should FB posts made when off duty be held against officers when they come to work?


Of course they should. They are against every other working joe.

And in this case, especially if its glorifying police brutality like it says.

Good on them for trying to hide behind the 1st amendment though.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 7:08 am
Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:07 am to
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72 Philadelphia police officers were placed on administrative duty amid an internal investigation into alleged anti-Muslim social media posts
This'll make Philly much safer!
Posted by arseinclarse
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Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:07 am to
Muslim is not a race.

Put the cops back on the street.
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:07 am to
Obama’s parting gift to the police.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:08 am to
Officers who made public statements about the ills of Islam should be given medals.
Posted by arseinclarse
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Member since Apr 2007
34411 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:09 am to
“No go zones” are racist against whites and blacks who happen not to believe in that goat fricker.
Posted by LsuTool
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:09 am to
If you work for the government and post on Facebook you’re asking to get fricked
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:10 am to
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Of course they should. They are against every other working joe.


So because social media is weaponized against one group, that makes it ok to be weaponized against another?

How about we stop hyperventilating over what anyone posts on social media?
Posted by arseinclarse
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Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:11 am to
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If you post on Facebook you’re asking to get fricked


Zuck will destroy you if he wants to. Why anyone posts on that site is beyond me.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:12 am to
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So because social media is weaponized against one group, that makes it ok to be weaponized against another?


What does this even mean and how does it make it ok for a police officer to publicly support police brutality?

If you're dumb enough to post something like that publicly, you're waaaaay too dumb to have any position of authority.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 7:13 am
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:13 am to
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72 Philadelphia police officers were placed on administrative duty amid an internal investigation into alleged anti-Muslim social media posts
Norm Macdonald: 72 Virgins
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:13 am to
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So because social media is weaponized against one group, that makes it ok to be weaponized against another?


He would have been fired if he posted flyers in the neighborhood with the same content.
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:15 am to
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a team of researchers who spent two years looking at the personal Facebook accounts of police officers from Arizona to Florida


Demercrits
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:16 am to
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from Arizona to Florida


Wonder why they left California out?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:18 am to
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to see if the posts are constitutionally protected by the First Amendment’s guarantee of freedom of speech. If any of the posts are not protected by the First Amendment, the department will take action accordingly


Are they going to be charged or something?

People who think the first amendment means they can say whatever the frick you want with no consequences are retarded.
Posted by Ice Cold
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:18 am to
My quick thoughts on this...

It's not (just) about "holding it against" them. It's about the entire criminal justice system. Detectives and prosecutors (dun-dun) work with what patrol officers give them, good or bad.

Defense attorneys know what to do with information like that, and they'll find it whether it's public or private. It's not hard to convince a jury of ill intent when an officer's personal prejudices are displayed like that. The state has the burden of proof, and the defense needs to show reasonable doubt about guilt - not proof of innocence.

I say this as the son of a career sheriff's deputy and brother of a former deputy. I know the crap they put up with on a daily basis. I also know that LEO are people like anyone else with all their flaws and assets.

I'm not a "back the badge no matter what" person. All of us are accountable for our words and actions. Some people are prejudiced by nature, others by experience. LEOs are no different, except that their position of trust within society creates a greater burden on them to do things the right way.

Now the Philly authorities have a major problem on their hands, and it taints everyone with a badge whether they deserve it or not.

That is the real damage being done here.
Posted by Warfox
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Member since Apr 2017
3139 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:19 am to
Your bias is showing, how sad. Who are these “researchers” what proof is there that they “glorified police brutality”? Have these officers been convicted of this? Didn’t think so. Also “right wing militia groups”? This research group sounds like a SJW hit squad to me. Frick this world and let Philly burn I guess, because that’s what’s gonna happen if these “researchers” are allowed to hollow out these police departments with this kind of nonsense bullshite.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32710 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:19 am to
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Defense attorneys know what to do with information like that, and they'll find it whether it's public or private. It's not hard to convince a jury of ill intent when an officer's personal prejudices are displayed like that. The state has the burden of proof, and the defense needs to show reasonable doubt about guilt - not proof of innocence.

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