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re: $500M "art" purchase

Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:43 pm to
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Right just because YOU don't get something, that makes it bad
Your first comment to me about "not getting it".

The way i interpret this remark is:"You're too stupid to understand abstract art, but I get it because I'm such an intellectual."

Funny thing is, when I beg you to help me understand what his art represents, you can't do it. What am I to take from this?
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 5:44 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:45 pm to
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I thought I read somewhere a billionaire spent 300+M on a piece of art on his credit card. The upswing? He will never pay for a plane ticket again in his life as he now has crazy skymiles.
Billionaires don't fly commercial bro.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:45 pm to
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His paintings represent nothing!


Nothingness is something you know nothing about.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:52 pm to
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Nothingness is something you know nothing about.
Wow, that's deep man! It's like everything is something you know everything about man.

Mind blown man!

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:53 pm to
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The way i interpret this remark is:"You're too stupid to understand abstract art, but I get it because I'm such an intellectual


Maybe you shouldn't put words in people's mouths. All that was said was that it's absurd for you think your own narrow view (for clarification, ALL of us walking this earth have a narrow view) is "correct", which is still true of your posts and tone and is what makes YOU the pretentious one in this scenario.
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Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:58 pm to
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I tried but it seems your'e ignoring my post.
Sorry, I missed it a couple pages back.

But all you explained was where he started, his "process", and how he got his break. No explanation of what his work represents.
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Does it need to represent something? Or is it there to get a reaction or evoke an emotion? 
For me, yes it should represent something to be considered art. His art gets the same reaction or emotion from me as looking at a used drop cloth. None.

What reaction or emotion do you get from it?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:59 pm to
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yes it should represent something to be considered art.


And what makes you specially qualified to make this kind of a blanket statement?

You're more obtuse than the warden in Shawshank.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 6:00 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:03 pm to
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And what makes you specially qualified to make this kind of a blanket statement?

well to be fair, art is a subjective experience for the individual that is influenced by all sorts of outside factors

for the expert and layperson alike
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:11 pm to
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yes it should represent something to be considered art.


It absolutely represents something. It is grounded in the exploration of the subconscious...specifically Jungian analysis which was a new thing at the time Pollock created his work. But if you mean he doesn't have figurative representation in his paintings, you are correct. The entire art world has been moving away from figurative art since the Renaissance. But especially since the mid 1800's.

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His art gets the same reaction or emotion from me as looking at a used drop cloth. None.


My guess is you hate all modern, non representational art.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
62218 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:13 pm to
So what kind of books do you read? Movies do you watch? Music do you listen to? Buildings do you like?

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No explanation of what his work represents

It represents Abstract Expression IF it needs to represent anything. I'll let you google that.

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His art gets the same reaction or emotion from me as looking at a used drop cloth.

So you're going to start a thread expressing borderline anger, maybe not borderline, about a used drop cloth? Are you going to post as angry about that as that (your words) a no talent hack's painting that can fetch 200 million?

BTW, you're not totally wrong about him and that's part of the allure too. A 1949 Time Life article mentions the exact same thing as what you're doing after they called him the Greatest American Artist.

You need to remember these guys, Pollock, De Kooning, Rothko was America's answer to Europe's surrealist and regarded that way. These are the fellows that kicked off the exact discussion you created.

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What reaction or emotion do you get from it?

None. But I can see how it can for others. I don't like Frank Zappa, but I can understand the appeal.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37592 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:20 pm to
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Youre wrong


The term you were looking for was a "lack of self awareness". Or perhaps you found it ironic.

Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
43544 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:21 pm to
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don't like Frank Zappa,


I am expressing an abstraction of my middle finger in your direction.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
62218 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:25 pm to


That was specifically for you.

Maybe I should have used radiohead b/c I do enjoy a few Zappa tunes.

This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 6:26 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:36 pm to
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It absolutely represents something. It is grounded in the exploration of the subconscious...specifically Jungian analysis 
I'm sorry, but I don't have a minor in Psychobabble bullshite like you apparently do. Can you explain this in non-bullshite terms that I might understand?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:38 pm to
That's the mother fricker who gutted E Trade among other things.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:40 pm to


Ah, the Storming of the Bastille. So powerful. So deep.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:41 pm to
How exactly do you get this:
quote:

It absolutely represents something. It is grounded in the exploration of the subconscious...specifically Jungian analysis 
From this:



Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:42 pm to


Without question, my favorite pro-capital punishment piece of all time.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59576 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:45 pm to
Looks like a rural shot of Mississippi. I wouldn't pay $5 for that piece of shite.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:45 pm to
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Without question, my favorite pro-capital punishment piece of all time.
No you troglodyte, it represents the subconscious alter ego of man in his struggle to find the true meaning of death, or life.

How can you not see that?




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