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re: $500M "art" purchase
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:43 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:43 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Your first comment to me about "not getting it".
Right just because YOU don't get something, that makes it bad
The way i interpret this remark is:"You're too stupid to understand abstract art, but I get it because I'm such an intellectual."
Funny thing is, when I beg you to help me understand what his art represents, you can't do it. What am I to take from this?
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:45 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:Billionaires don't fly commercial bro.
I thought I read somewhere a billionaire spent 300+M on a piece of art on his credit card. The upswing? He will never pay for a plane ticket again in his life as he now has crazy skymiles.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:45 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:
His paintings represent nothing!
Nothingness is something you know nothing about.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:52 pm to Zappas Stache
quote:Wow, that's deep man! It's like everything is something you know everything about man.
Nothingness is something you know nothing about.
Mind blown man!
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:53 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:
The way i interpret this remark is:"You're too stupid to understand abstract art, but I get it because I'm such an intellectual
Maybe you shouldn't put words in people's mouths. All that was said was that it's absurd for you think your own narrow view (for clarification, ALL of us walking this earth have a narrow view) is "correct", which is still true of your posts and tone and is what makes YOU the pretentious one in this scenario.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:58 pm to Cdawg
quote:Sorry, I missed it a couple pages back.
I tried but it seems your'e ignoring my post.
But all you explained was where he started, his "process", and how he got his break. No explanation of what his work represents.
quote:For me, yes it should represent something to be considered art. His art gets the same reaction or emotion from me as looking at a used drop cloth. None.
Does it need to represent something? Or is it there to get a reaction or evoke an emotion?
What reaction or emotion do you get from it?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 5:59 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:
yes it should represent something to be considered art.
And what makes you specially qualified to make this kind of a blanket statement?
You're more obtuse than the warden in Shawshank.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
And what makes you specially qualified to make this kind of a blanket statement?
well to be fair, art is a subjective experience for the individual that is influenced by all sorts of outside factors
for the expert and layperson alike
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:11 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:
yes it should represent something to be considered art.
It absolutely represents something. It is grounded in the exploration of the subconscious...specifically Jungian analysis which was a new thing at the time Pollock created his work. But if you mean he doesn't have figurative representation in his paintings, you are correct. The entire art world has been moving away from figurative art since the Renaissance. But especially since the mid 1800's.
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His art gets the same reaction or emotion from me as looking at a used drop cloth. None.
My guess is you hate all modern, non representational art.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:13 pm to bhtigerfan
So what kind of books do you read? Movies do you watch? Music do you listen to? Buildings do you like?
It represents Abstract Expression IF it needs to represent anything. I'll let you google that.
So you're going to start a thread expressing borderline anger, maybe not borderline, about a used drop cloth? Are you going to post as angry about that as that (your words) a no talent hack's painting that can fetch 200 million?
BTW, you're not totally wrong about him and that's part of the allure too. A 1949 Time Life article mentions the exact same thing as what you're doing after they called him the Greatest American Artist.
You need to remember these guys, Pollock, De Kooning, Rothko was America's answer to Europe's surrealist and regarded that way. These are the fellows that kicked off the exact discussion you created.
None. But I can see how it can for others. I don't like Frank Zappa, but I can understand the appeal.
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No explanation of what his work represents
It represents Abstract Expression IF it needs to represent anything. I'll let you google that.
quote:
His art gets the same reaction or emotion from me as looking at a used drop cloth.
So you're going to start a thread expressing borderline anger, maybe not borderline, about a used drop cloth? Are you going to post as angry about that as that (your words) a no talent hack's painting that can fetch 200 million?
BTW, you're not totally wrong about him and that's part of the allure too. A 1949 Time Life article mentions the exact same thing as what you're doing after they called him the Greatest American Artist.
You need to remember these guys, Pollock, De Kooning, Rothko was America's answer to Europe's surrealist and regarded that way. These are the fellows that kicked off the exact discussion you created.
quote:
What reaction or emotion do you get from it?
None. But I can see how it can for others. I don't like Frank Zappa, but I can understand the appeal.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Youre wrong
The term you were looking for was a "lack of self awareness". Or perhaps you found it ironic.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:21 pm to Cdawg
quote:
don't like Frank Zappa,
I am expressing an abstraction of my middle finger in your direction.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:25 pm to Zappas Stache
That was specifically for you.
Maybe I should have used radiohead b/c I do enjoy a few Zappa tunes.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:36 pm to Zappas Stache
quote:I'm sorry, but I don't have a minor in Psychobabble bullshite like you apparently do. Can you explain this in non-bullshite terms that I might understand?
It absolutely represents something. It is grounded in the exploration of the subconscious...specifically Jungian analysis
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:38 pm to Quidam65
That's the mother fricker who gutted E Trade among other things.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:40 pm to bhtigerfan
Ah, the Storming of the Bastille. So powerful. So deep.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:41 pm to Zappas Stache
How exactly do you get this:

quote:From this:
It absolutely represents something. It is grounded in the exploration of the subconscious...specifically Jungian analysis
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:42 pm to bhtigerfan
Without question, my favorite pro-capital punishment piece of all time.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:45 pm to SabiDojo
Looks like a rural shot of Mississippi. I wouldn't pay $5 for that piece of shite.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:45 pm to SabiDojo
quote:No you troglodyte, it represents the subconscious alter ego of man in his struggle to find the true meaning of death, or life.
Without question, my favorite pro-capital punishment piece of all time.
How can you not see that?
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