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re: 2024 population of CSAs (Combined Statistical Areas) in SEC states
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:07 am to Govt Tide
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:07 am to Govt Tide
Is there something to standardize a CSA by area?
quote:seems like it would be huge compared to some of the others. From Athens on the east all the way to somewhere in Alabama?
Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs, GA-AL
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:18 am to Govt Tide
Margaret, I don’t care…
Posted on 7/30/25 at 7:48 am to PJinAtl
Seems list is missing Pensacola.
The Greater Pensacola - Gulf Breeze - Pace/Milton Area is much more condensed and commuter based than many others on the list and probably around 500k.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:01 am to PJinAtl
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seems like it would be huge compared to some of the others. From Athens on the east all the way to somewhere in Alabama?
Yeah, I'm not really understanding how they came up with the parameters to define a CSA. The Bham/Cullman/Talladega one is weird too. If you drew straight lines between the three, it takes up nearly all of central AL, but leaves out the entire western portion of the state. It also doesn't count more populated areas just north of Talladega that wouldn't be included in the triangle. And one would think Cullman would be included in the Hunstville CSA.
Just seems random how they included places in some of these.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:50 pm to PJinAtl
quote:
Is there something to standardize a CSA by area?
Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs, GA-AL
seems like it would be huge compared to some of the others.
From Athens on the east all the way to somewhere in Alabama?
Good question. Why some cities/metros meet criteria to be a CSA and some didn't was confusing to me too. After reading up on it, CSAs are basically metro areas with adjacent micropolitan areas that border them and meet certain commuting thresholds between each other to be included.
Here's an explanation on the difference between a CSA and a MSA according to the OMB......
Combined statistical area (CSA) is a United States Office of Management and Budget (OMB) term for a combination of adjacent metropolitan (MSA) and micropolitan statistical areas (µSA) across the 50 U.S. states and the territory of Puerto Rico that can demonstrate economic or social linkage. CSAs were first designated in 2003.[1][2] OMB defines a CSA by various combinations of adjacent metropolitan and micropolitan areas with economic ties measured by commuting patterns. CSAs retain their own designations as metropolitan or micropolitan statistical areas in their respective larger combined statistical areas
The primary distinguishing factor between a CSA and an MSA/µSA is that the social and economic ties between the individual MSAs/µSAs within a CSA are at lower levels than between the counties within an MSA.[3] CSAs represent multiple metropolitan or micropolitan areas that have an employment interchange of at least 15% (% commuting from A to B plus % commuting from B to A).[3] CSAs often represent regions with overlapping labor and media markets.
It sounds like a CSA usually consists of a metropolitan area + adjacent micropolitan areas (Examples: Birmingham, AL, Baton Rouge, LA, etc) and as well as combinations of two separate distinct metro areas that directly border each other (New Orleans, Greenville/Spartanburg, Mobile, etc) and have strong economic and social ties that also meet certain commuting thresholds between the metros areas and micro areas included in the CSA
This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 7/30/25 at 12:55 pm to Govt Tide
When did they start including Athens in the ATL MSA? Athens used to be its own MSA. This must be a recent thing.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 1:12 pm to deeprig9
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When did they start including Athens in the ATL MSA? Athens used to be its own MSA. This must be a recent thing.
They didn't change it. Athens-Clarke County is still its own distinct MSA. CSA is a combination of two or more metropolitan or micropolitan areas that have strong economic and social ties and also meet certain commuting thresholds to and from each other. See my post right above yours
Posted on 7/30/25 at 2:38 pm to Govt Tide
Since we are calling all population within 40-50 miles the metro area I believe Polk City Fl Has both Orlando and Tampa in it's "area".
How many people is that?
How many people is that?
Posted on 7/30/25 at 5:44 pm to Govt Tide
OP dude, add in the major MSAs like Austin and T/StP that aren’t combined into a CSA.
Your list is meaningless shite until you do so.
Your list is meaningless shite until you do so.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:03 am to Snoop Dawg
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OP dude, add in the major MSAs like Austin and T/StP that aren’t combined into a CSA. Your list is meaningless shite until you do so.
OP, open Excel, paste in your CSA list, paste in missing MSAs, sort, and post.
Again, your list is incomplete and worthless without them. Please finish the job for us.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:53 am to Swagga
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I didn’t know Slidell was part of the NOLA CSA but not Mandeville / Covington. I know that mandeville / Covington came out during COVID and will likely be added back, but interesting nonetheless.
Also of note…Houma/Thibodaux has always been considered not the New Orleans CSA and has been in its own MSA for a few years.
With population losses, they actually wanted to treat Houma/Thibodaux as a Micro-politian area instead of a metropolitan area.
But that is another 200,000 and change of residents that could be added to the population of metro New Orleans as there is a lot of shared resources like media and workforce. Not that would ever happen since Houma-Thibodaux would like to stay independent.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:01 am to Govt Tide
Posted on 7/31/25 at 6:22 am to Govt Tide
How is Hammond linked with Baton Rouge? How are Mandeville and Covington not part of the New Orleans CSA? Even Hammond should be there rather than with baton rouge.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 11:45 am to Shexter
Interesting that NW Arkansas would be about 84th on this list for population but isn’t factored in. I guess none of the towns are major/mid sized cities but the metro between Fay, Springdale, Rogers & Bentonville make it a big area
Posted on 7/31/25 at 12:10 pm to Govt Tide
quote:
Birmingham-Cullman-Talladega, AL (CSA) - 1,376,853 +1.16%
Why in the hell would they choose Cullman instead of Mountain Brook, Vestavia, Hoover, Pelham, Helena?
Posted on 7/31/25 at 12:14 pm to Govt Tide
TL ; DR
Posted on 7/31/25 at 12:21 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Your list is missing Charleston, SC.
Considered part of Ohio.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 12:28 pm to Govt Tide
OP's IQ 0 +0.00%
Posted on 7/31/25 at 12:32 pm to Govt Tide
quote:Shreveport gains at Lafayette's loss:
85) Lafayette-New Iberia-Opelousas, LA (CSA) - 568,113 +1.28%
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