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If Alabama would have waited 2 years for statehood (after Spain surrendered Florida) all of West Florida to the Apalachicola River would most likely be in Alabama today








The Alabama/Florida border was originally proposed to run basically north south along the Chattahoochie River straight down from the Alabama/Georgia border but that was too much of a compromise (and rightly so) for Florida to agree to.

The final compromised proposal came very close to hapoening but for Alabama's shortsightedness in the mid to late 1800s. The final proposal was for the border to run north/south basically along the Santa Rosa and Okaloosa County line down to the beach which would have given Escambia and Santa Rosa counties to Alabama.

That move would have resulted in roughly 503,000 more Alabama residents (as of 2023) and cost Alabama a ton of tourism revenue not to mention a prestigious Air Force base. Granted, the stretch of beach from Pensacola Beach to Navarre Beach would be a solid wall of several miles of high rise concrete condos and hotels instead of the mostly pristine and preserved stretch of Beach it is today.

The Bama/LSU hatred as a whole is almost entirely one way (LSU fans towards Bama) but neither I nor any other Bama fans I know have any beef with LSU or LSU fans.

I've always had a healthy respect for LSU and LSU fans despite the hostility from LSU fans towards us. I never drop facts like the OP in much the same way a kind hearted good natured person who has dirt on someone antagonizing them but bites their tongue and doesn't share it in public because they don't want to be mean and embarrass someone in front of others. Kinda like a drunk out of shape guy bowing up, getting in the face of, and shoving an MMA fighter who is minding his own business and doesn't want to embarrass the guy in front of his friends but decides to let the him off easy with some embarrassing truth instead of using unnecessary force. No need to overreact when you can silence the guy with a truth bomb instead
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Imagine relishing the loss of a job for someone you don’t even know. Be better.


Agreed. Low blow and sh###y move idle. No need to go there
LSU fans born in 1970 have witnessed only 5 home wins over Alabama in the 28 games the two teams have played in Tiger Stadium over that period.

To put that in perspective, Auburn...a true rival of Alabama in head to head competition...has won twice as many home wins over Alabama (10) in only 18 games the two teams have played in Jordan Hare Stadium over a much shorter time period.

My 17 year old nephew has witnessed more Alabama football wins over LSU in Baton Rouge than a 55 year old LSU fan has witnessed over Alabama over each other's respective lifespans




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Alabama has a winning record against LSU in basketball AND baseball, too.



It's even worse than that. Ever since Alabama football broke the LSU football program and fanbase in the 2011 national championship game in in early January 2012, LSU has managed an embarrassingly poor 11-31 combined record against Alabama
In football and basketball since.

A 56 year old LSU fan has witnessed nearly twice as many Alabama national championships in football (9) as LSU home wins over Alabama in Tiger Stadium (5).

LSU football wins over Alabama are almost as rare in Baton Rouge as honest competent politicians
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What the frick would Bama know about how to act when you've been there In baseball?


Why so cranky?....lol

I think he was saying to act like you've been there in...as in been there in one of the big three sports (football, men's basketball, or baseball).

Alabama baseball has been awful to mediocre at best the past 10 years...i.e. a little better than LSU men's basketball over the same time period.

Alabama fans will have to settle with having Top 10 and Top 20 programs respectively in the only two college sports (football and men's basketball) that the majority of sports fans pay any attention to. We'll leave college baseball to you guys.

P.S. 4,400...which is probably close to the average attendance for LSU men's basketball home games against non-conference opponents this season...isn't bad attendance for the mid February home opener of a bottom dwelling baseball program
I'm not crazy about Nate's pot stirring and I do get annoyed even as an Alabama fan with his 4 to 5 coach's appeals and challenges every game but other than that he's just a good coach with an unorthodox 3 pt and layup with minimal to no defense or bust style. Nothing more, nothing less.

He's obviously doesn't mind him and his program taking the heat and being the bad guy by challenging the hypocrisy of the NCAA allowing players that have played professionally in Europe for 5 and 6 years to be college eligible players while barring players that have played 2 years of professional basketball exclusively in the G league.

I think allowing eligibility to players who have played professionally even if only the G league is bull#### and Bediako should be denied further eligibility based on that but so should foreign players who have played professionally overseas. From that standpoint, I have no problem with a coach (Nate in this case) challenging the hypocrisy of it all regardless of whether the challenge gets shot down.
Alabama is hurt in research based rankings like these because unlike most university systems who have their research metrics under one main university Alabama's is divided up between the 3 universities in the system. I suspect LSU's numbers are set up the same way.

The University of Alabama School of Medicine is entirely under the UAB campus (#137 in the rankings) and most of the engineering research is under the the UAH (#434 in the rankings) campus. If UA system was set up to where the main research offices were based at the main campus while maintaining a lot of the medical and engineering research at the UAB and UAH campuses then "The University of Alabama" would be ranked somewhere in the #100 to #120 school on the list.

UAB - #137
UAH - #434

Considering the fact that a lot of the undergraduate medical/engineering students at UA's main campus are tied in with the medical school on the B'ham campus and engineering students tied in with the UAH campus it's semantics. UA's main campus students in those majors are directly tied into the respective medical and engineering research whose research offices happen to be based on the Birmingham and Hunstsville campuses
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I am just south of Birmingham, what the heck does this mean? most of the stuff I have seen has northern Shelby county still getting a bunch of ice


I should clarify that areas just south of Calera MAY be ok. The entirety of Shelby County is in danger of major ice. The rain or freezing rain will be moderate to heavy in your area. You do NOT want to be sitting at 29 or 30 degrees with moderate freezing rain falling. Guaranteed power outage
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Just placed the last of the Amazon orders for snow bibs, sleds and other gear as it appears we are getting another snowpocalypse here in Little Rock.


Central Alabama is warm nose central on most of the models which spares the I-65 corridor between Montgomery and just south of B'hame from a really bad ice storm.

You might be able to skate on I-20 between B'ham and Atlanta and I-59 between B'ham and Ft Payne not to mention I-20 between Shreveport and Jackson, MS if even half of the 1.00-2.50 inches of freezing rain totals being modeled end up verifying.

Euro and GFS both now showing between 8" inches of snow around Huntsville to around 16" in Nashville with some 20" totals in between in southern middle Tennessee.

The entire state of Tennessee with 10+ inches modeled on the Euro

Have you ever taken an iq test?

Posted by Govt Tide on 1/7/26 at 6:08 pm
And what did you score?

125 here
What Cignetti has done at IU in his first two seasons is very very impressive but being "the daddy" means that next season IU for the first time ever in football will be getting everyone's best shot every game.

With the possible exception of SMU, IU played the weakest regular season schedule a playoff team has ever played last season and this year's schedule while significantly more difficult still has room to be considerably more difficult in years you get a tough schedule draw.

This year's IU team is legit and has earned the #1 seed but your team will be in unfamiliar territory being "the hunted" team in every game next year and you'll be going thru next season minus a Heisman winning qb and #1 overall draft pick.

Assuming you don't get another cakewalk schedule like you did last year, we'll see how you handle being "the daddy" for the first time next season
Can't argue with your observation that Bama fans have been overly negativeabout our chances.

As a Bama fan who tends to be glass half empty even I think the pessimism is overboard. If we can win the turnover battle or at least keep it even I think we have a decent chance of winning a close one and advancing.

I don't like our chances against Indiana if we do somehow win in Norman though. This year's Indiana team is legit
Truth is there's no ideal way for a coach in that situation to handle it. It's comes down to the degree of how poorly a coach who is leaving handles a situation.

Kiffin could have handled it the same way Saban did when he left the Dolphins. Saban brushed off questions for a solid month and at one point flatly denied interest in leaving the Dolphins for Alabama and did so to coach out the remainder of the Dolphin's regular season which he
did.

Saban caught absolute hell from the
national media, Miami area media,
and a lot of rival SEC fans saying what a scumbag and snake he was for "quitting" on the Dolphins despite coaching out the entire regular season schedule. His only mistake was lying the one time when he flatly denied interest in the Bama job about a week or so before being introduced as the new Bama coach.

The media was pissed at Saban because they had spent over a month laughing at Alabama administrators, Bama AD Mal Moore, and Bama fans and mocking them as delusional for thinking they had a chance in hell at luring Saban away from the Dolphins. Saban made the media look like fools when Alabama fans turned out to the right. Instead of humbly admitting they got it wrong the media doubled down on attacking Saban, the Alabama administration, and Alabama fans.

Ideally, Lane could have let it be known to LSU officials that he would leave OM at the end of OM's playoff run and insisted that LSU keep everything on the down low until after OM's playoff run was over. Lane and LSU both could have avoided a lot of criticism handling it that way instead of announcing and making the move when they did.

It is funny looking back at how much the money has changed in college football the last 20 years. Everyone thought Alabama had lost their fricking minds when they offered Saban an 8 year, $32 million dollar guaranteed contract. LSU will end up paying Lane the equivalent of Saban's entire initial 8 year Alabama contract by the midway point of Lane's 3rd season at LSU.

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It's a 12 team playoff not a 16 team playoff.

Sorry, somebody's gotta be left out.


Yep. Schedule draw helps in situations like this. This year's Vamdy team goes 11-1 with Indiana's 2024 schedule which is the weakest schedule I've ever seen for a Big Ten or SEC playoff team. Played only 3 games against teams that won 7 or more games last year and got blown out against the only great team they played during the regular season.

This year's Indiana team is totally legit btw, borderline elite in fact. Not hating on IU but y'all's schedule last season was cupcake city
It sucks because this Vandy team is legitimately very good and if this year didn't have as many 2 loss borderline playoff teams as it does Vandy would already be in. This 10-2 Vandy team would have gotten in last year's playoff for example.

Vandy really needed LSU to hang on and not blow their 4th quarter lead last Saturday. Vandy would have taken OU's playoff spot if OU had
lost last Saturday
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In the end Alabama beat UGA this weekend we are in. If we do not no issue and Miami would slide in


I could see this happening but then again if we're comparing resumes I'm not how Miami's resume is more deserving than Alabama's assuming there's no meaningful penalty for losing a close game to the #3 team in a conference championship game.

Alabama:

Ranked wins:

road win at #3 Georgia
home win over #13 Vanderbilt
road win at #25 Missouri

Losses:

road loss to unranked FSU
home loss to #8 Oklahoma
"neutral" loss to #2 Georgia

Miami:

Wins
home win over #9 Notre Dame

Losses

home loss to unranked Louisville
road loss to #22 SMU

I agree that a Texas Tech loss to BYU is no bueno. That would more than likely be a fatal blow to Bama's playoff chances
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The timing is awful

Ole Miss should be celebrating their best ever season and instead they are dealing with this crap

I don't blame LSU, Florida or Lane. I blame the NCAA, they have really screwed up college athletics with bad decisions over the past few decades

They should get rid of the December signing day so the timeline is a little better than what we have now


True. You can't blame other teams trying to poach him.

You're right about the NCAA too. They absolutely suck. For decades they've
been a smug elitist, hypocritical, and laughably tone deaf organization with a Big Ten/East Coast dominated administration. They hypocritically preach about amateurism and academics while putting money and more money above the good of the sport. When the SEC started becoming the dominant football conference in the 90s they went heavy handed on SEC programs and were critical of SEC academic standards while allowing a couple of prominent Big Ten and ACC football/basketball programs to skate on academic fraud. The cherry on top was their years long resistance to all the NIL type reform attempts that would have provided a more
manageable NIL system instead of the put of control free for all system we now have. They're the ultimate "private" sector example of the kind of corruption and ineptitude that "big government" is famous for.

Case in point is the December signing period that you pointed out which is one of the dumbest ideas they've come up with. Yeh, let's move signing day to a time that inteferes and distracts from our biggest sport's national championship playoff and bowl season and completely destroys the recruiting of teams that lose their head coach and even compromises the rosters of teams in the middle of a playoff run and in the middle of bowl preparations.

Ole Miss fans deserve better than having a potentially historic season ruined
Agreed. I don't get the whole idea of penalizing a team for a highly uncertain head coaching situation in a potential playoff selection scenario.

It would be one thing if a team's star quarterback got hurt and knocked out of an upcoming playoff (ala 2023 Florida State) but a head coaching situation while disruptive doesn't change the effectiveness of a team's roster that did enough during the season to deserve a playoff spot.

Ole Miss is securely in the playoff barring them s###ing the bed and losing the Egg Bowl. That part is a given but I could see Lane's situation costing Ole Miss a home playoff game which would be BS in my opinion
Yep. Not that it really matters but Auburn and Alabama finished last season ranked #1 and #2 respectively in the final Ken Pom rankings after the NCAA tournament last season

I've never seen two teams from the same state finish #1 and #2 in the rpi rankings although I'm sure it's probably happened before
That would suck and hopefully be avoided if possible.

I realize at some point it's probably unavoidable with the SEC potentially getting 5 teams in the playoff but one of the cool things about the new playoff format is really interesting non conference match ups on campus in a playoff format.

I know the bowls will never allow it but I'd prefer it if the 2nd round playoff games were played on the campuses of the 4 teams that get byes in the first round