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What has been Mickey Loomis biggest mistake

Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:01 am
Posted by FlyingTigerBo
Member since Dec 2025
81 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:01 am
I'd say trading an extra 1st for Olave which ended up being Jalen Carter...
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27694 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:06 am to
Not even close.

Jonathan Sullivan is going to be hard to beat. Giving junior gallete a big deal is up there too.
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 11:07 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
57103 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:10 am to
hell, he overpaid for Taysom Hill for what his role was
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131590 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:15 am to
Its Derek Carr or trying to keep winning after the Brees era ended but especially after Payton left

He got saved by Carr retiring. We would be in a much much worse situation if Carr hadn't done that
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9244 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:15 am to
Striking out on older secondary players was really bad for a stretch. Byrd and Brandon Bortner. Similarly the hunt for a DE was pretty disastrous with the Davenport trade and selection followed by Turner. Legitimately spent three first round picks on Davenport and Turner.

Trevor Penning was probably the worst move in recent memory.

Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19619 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:19 am to
I have bitched about Loomis, but what he has proven now over 4 coaches is he gets the players his coaches want and is extremely patient with them.
Posted by saintlad74
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2016
1177 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:29 am to
In the 2003 NFL Draft, when Saints traded two first-round picks (Nos. 17 and 18 overall) plus a second-rounder to the Cardinals and select defensive tackle Johnathan Sullivan????

I think the Cardinals got Anquan Boldin with one of those pics
Posted by mikesaltychip
Mandeville La..
Member since Apr 2008
149 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:47 am to
Loomis does not pick players!! Sean Payton had full control over all player personel and Jeff Ireland took over when he left. Loomis is a bean counter. His mistakes would be in the contract catagory not picking players
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
36111 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:48 am to
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Its Derek Carr


IMO, it is this.

Draft picks always come with a degree of uncertainty and no GM bats .1000. Plus, it's easy to judge in hindsight while the initial decision was made without the benefit of hindsight.

The big FA signings in the Brees era at least had some rationale behind them. The Saints were trying to win championships while they had a HOF QB at his peak. But for an awful call in 2018 the Saints likely get that 2nd championship.

The Carr signing though was dumb without the need for hindsight. The Saints realistic championship window had closed, Payton had left, and the Saints didn't really have the "liquidity" to sign an expensive QB who one of the worst franchises in football had given up on. The likelihood of that plan having success was low from day 1.

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He got saved by Carr retiring


This. If Carr doesn't retire the "note" on him is still somewhat large, thus deferring the opportunity to try to rebuild. Instead of going into this season with some optimism and what appears to be a healthy salary cap outlook next season for the first time in years, the Saints would likely be one of the worst teams in the league and still a few years away from a good financial/cap picture.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
59366 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:52 am to
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
59366 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:53 am to
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
5391 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:07 pm to
Carr, Jarious Byrd, Browner, & Gallete contracts.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36299 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:13 pm to
Keeping Dennis “look beyond the results” Allen after year two.


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Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291592 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:16 pm to
Definitely the continuity angle post-Brees. Hiring Allen prob the biggest setback but this would also include Olave & Carr
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
17747 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:19 pm to
Zach Baun thriving for Philly burns my arse.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
5663 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:21 pm to
Making Allen head coach.
Posted by Kankles
Member since Dec 2012
6164 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:22 pm to
Only 1 Super Bowl with Brees.

Sure, 2 fluke plays cost us 2 different times, 3 if you count Vernon Davis, but all the years in between we failed to field a defense with a pulse.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22182 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:41 pm to
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Zach Baun thriving for Philly burns my arse.

100% on the coaches. Scouting team found him, Loomis/Payton drafted him, DA put him in the wrong role. He became a FA, and the team discussed what there plans were for him and tried to pay him accordingly. He took a low contract with Philly (1 year $3.5M) betting on himself to get a bigger role. If the coaches saw the role for Baun, Loomis doesn't even blink at matching that offer
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22182 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:44 pm to
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Its Derek Carr or trying to keep winning after the Brees era ended but especially after Payton left

Agreed. Loomis & Allen were trying to keep the Payton era alive and saw the team was 1 win away with Winston form the playoffs. I assume the thought was improve from Winston with Carr and build from there. The problem is, you were not getting 2016 Carr; and while the team may have been a QB from the playoffs, you still were not a SB contending team.
Posted by OneSaintsFan
St. George, La
Member since Jan 2009
1928 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Jonathan Sullivan


This - in his defense it was his first year as GM.
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