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re: Bryson valuation

Posted by tigerfan88 on 4/30/26 at 3:11 pm to
Yeah but they don’t tune in to watch Bryson on LIV even though they’re fans of his.

That’s the tricky thing about his value to a tour. He’s cultivated a fan base that is perfectly happy watching him on social media and YouTube, and maybe the majors if they even watch that.

It makes Bryson very valuable to brands that can advertise on YouTube and social media, but he hasn’t really moved the needle for tournament broadcasts.

re: Bryson valuation

Posted by tigerfan88 on 4/30/26 at 9:48 am to
I think the distinction is Yasir didn’t care about making money. And they gave Yasir an incredibly long leash to do what he wanted before they really checked on him. And when they finally did that they turned out it was unpalatable
Scuttlebutt Bryson and Rahm will be tougher returns than Brooks and Reed not only because of timing, but Bryson because he joined in the lawsuit and Rahm because basically everyone is pissed that he left when he did and gave LIV this big boost in the merger negotiations
I don’t see the phrase fully funded” in there anywhere.

“Decided to fund” has a pretty wide variance. Could mean they’re giving every dollar that LIV was expecting to get back in January, could mean they’re giving them enough to keep the lights on but not nearly as much as LIV was expecting, which could definitely still cause logistical problems as the season goes on
Yeah definitely never said PGA needs LIV players so that’s false.

By every objective measure the pga tour hasn’t missed a beat, but it doesn’t mean that as a viewer it wouldn’t be better to have Rahm and Bryson playing with the rest of the worlds elite. Would add Brooks and Reed to that but they already jumped ship.

I would’ve said Niemann and Cam and DJ before LIV but it might’ve destroyed them permanently. But certainly pre-LIV those guys were pretty interesting.

Crazy thing about LIV is how boring and uninteresting it is having poached a bunch of guys who were interesting when on tour. So throw that in the same bucket as a reason to dislike LIV. They take guys who were or seem like they should be fun and interesting to watch play golf, and they do a great job of making them really not fun and interesting to watch
Other than the fact that it’s a terrible product whose entire premise was to turn golf tournaments into unserious walkabout exhibitions with bright colors and stupid logos and pop music blaring at all times. No stakes because everyone is paid a bazillion guaranteed dollars, the shotgun start is an awful idea for tournament golf and borderline invalidates the entire competition.

The team idea, the backbone of the whole idea, is one of the stupidest, most poorly thought out and implemented concepts in modern sports history. A vast majority of the players who went are tools. Greg Norman is a huge tool. Despite you trying to waive it away, it is Saudi backed which, regardless of if you think it raises moral questions, was always problematic because it wasn’t tethered to any sort of economic or viable business/sports reality.

Oh and having multiple sports leagues is bad in general because it just waters down the product, especially when week to week golf already faces an uphill battle with the majors for stakes and star power. The same reason every other successful sport in the world has conglomerated into one ultimate league that sits atop the pyramid over the past 100 years. Even soccer has to a degree with the champions league and now the club World Cup.

Other than those? Yeah no logical reason to not like LIV.
Exactly. Either LIV officials are that stupid (possible) or the concerns Louisiana had were valid and LIV didn’t want too much scrutiny on what exact financial matters Louisiana was asking for reassurance on
So then why did LIV say it was because of course conditions and heat and the World Cup?

Seems like Louisiana had some very legitimate concerns and LIV is trying to steer people away from asking if Louisiana was right to be concerned about payment
If this has been known for weeks and it’s all just the same news story, why is LIV only telling their players and staff now and why is Yasir resigning from the board now?

Why the big quasi-denial “media and unnamed sources are bullshite” talking points from Scott O’Neil and Ian Poulter and Arlo White two weeks ago?
Joel Beall on Golf Digest just dropped an article saying saying double digit LIV players have reached out to the tour about coming back asap, and that Bryson’s reps have switched in recent weeks from negotiating mainly for a new LIV contract to focusing on how to get him back on the pga tour.

Interestingly though the current sentiment is to play some hard ball with Rahm and Bryson since they didn’t take the offer that Brooks did. Especially Rahm, who apparently burned more bridges than anyone else when he left
To be fair adolescent girls were also routinely married off to older men at age 11-12 and expected to become pregnant at not much older. At least the males don’t have to get pregnant and then give birth which had a 50% chance of killing them
Yasir spent $5 billion dollars so that the LIV Bots/trolls could have a two week run of glory when Bryson beat Rory at pinehurst.

Hope that was worth it
Yeah it was MSB that was much more pro LIV. Just like the MSB is pro USFL and XFL etc but never actually watches any of the alternate leagues they claim to love
The fricking victory lap the LIV boys took a couple of weeks ago because LIV Mexico went on as planned (with a Bryson WD and several broadcast blackouts) only to now have LIV Nola cancelled and the fricking WSJ say that PIF funding is officially done and LIV has nothing else lined up.
Wonder how all of the existing contracts will work. Like don’t they owe Rahm another $100m or so? And resigned DJ?

Wonder if part of the reasons the Saudis are exiting now is the majority of the big guaranteed money contracts are up and it’s easier to extricate.
We still need a lot moves to hit and make good additional signings/draft picks to elevate into the strata of solid playoff team and hopefully actual SB contender.

But considering that when we hired Moore heading into the 2025 draft most people, including our own fans, had us as the (not unfairly) least talented and most hopeless team in the NFL, we’ve had a hell of a 15 month turnaround.
Cmon LIV just found out it’s hot in New Orleans in the summer and that there’s a World Cup happening in the U.S. And they just saw the course for the first time this month.

Nothing they could do but “postpone.”
Also we want to avoid summer heat and the World Cup, so we’re going to play in September which will probably be hotter than June and go up against the NFL and college football.

That makes sense
LIV’s last two events have 1) Needed a last minute, circle the wagons meeting in the days right before the event in order to guarantee the event could go forward and 2) been postponed.

To act like this is all some figment of the “corrupt golf media’s imagination” is wild.

ETA: The two most recent to be in the news I should say. They really need LIV Korea and Virginia to go off without as much as a whisper of an issue.
It’s still very possible they have the other events because Saudis take further pity on them. But it’s also very clear that Louisiana asked LIV to prove they wouldn’t have any funding issues come LIV Nola and they couldn’t do that.

Which is clearly not full speed ahead
I love the idea of Brian “wormtongue” Rolapp whispering in Jeff Landry’s ear at the Zurich convincing him to cancel LIV Nola. I really hope that’s the talking point that LIV sends out to its shills. Need Ian Poulter going full Pepe Silvia conspiracy.

Also feels like one of the other events needs to at least happen before you can really use that as a defense? Seems pretty clear that the Saudis told them (according to Scott O’Neil) they’ll have funding through the year, but that they have not actually provided that funding or legally obligated themselves to provide it in a way that assuages the concerns of Louisiana officials.