re: Jim Mora's resignation from the Saints

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So I have a question for the historians. Why did Mora quit after the Carolina game?

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he was going to be fired any way, that was obvious. they already told him fire carl smith or you will be fired and he refused and stuck with smith.

finally he had to admit to himself that smith was a complete dumbass and he had to go, so mora just quit rather than face having to fire his buddies

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Randy Mueller was fired because he allowed company money to be used for an abortion and a pay out to a saintsation on behalf of Haslett.

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Whoa need more info on this story. Mueller’s firing was a huge surprise

Good old Carl Smith!!

Mel Gray, one of the greatest return specialists of all time.

Saints let him go in Free Agency. Starting the year after he left?


4x Pro-Bowl
4x All-Pro
90's All-Decade team

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Mel Gray,

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Dumped him and replaced him with Derrick Shepard, who we had to release a month later because he muffed too many punts.

Barry Word. Yeah, he had drug issues but he had a short run with the Chiefs.

They got rid of Dave Waymer too soon too. He had a short run with the 49ers as well.

Also got rid of Lorenzo Neal after a gruesome leg injury.

And the Bobby Hebert fiasco, which as I said was more Finks than Mora. We didn’t need him because John Fourcade had a nice 3-game run at the end of 89. And then we overreacted and traded a 1, 2 and 3 for Steve Freaking Walsh. And then after all that shite, we had to cave in and bring him back in 91, just to run him out of town after 92. Set the team back a few years and helped build the Cowboys dynasty.

That team went 12-4?

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Finks was so incredibly pissed about that game as was Mora, that there was NO negotiation with him.Then they signed Wade Wilson and the Saints get off to a fast start.....and then the wheels start to come off....almost overnight.

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My point was they both made it personal back in 89 and then acted like we didn’t need him because we had John Fourcade. I mean, who needs Bobby Hebert when you have John Fourcade, right?

And then they poured gasoline on the fire with the STUPID Steve Walsh trade. Jimmy Johnson completely fleeced the Saints. He knew he was too small and didn’t have an NFL arm. We had to give up Pat Swilling just to get the 1 back we lost for Walsh, not to mention the other 2 amd 3 we gave up.

And, by the way, the worst loss that 93 season after we let Hebert walk came game 7. The Saints were 5-1 coming off a bad loss to Pittsburgh and were in line for an easy home win against the Falcons. And the Falcons kicked their asses.

The Falcons QB that day? Bobby Hebert. He almost came back and beat them off the bench week 2.

Mora does deserve some blame for that because as you said, he played a part in how that went down. That was the year Dan Dieedorf dressed down Saints fans on MNF because they “cheered” a Wade Wilson injury. They weren’t cheering his injury. They cheered because the season was going down the toilet and that was the only way stupid stubborn arse Jim Mora was going to take Wade Wilson out of the game. Dude had lost all his confidence by then but Mora was going down with the ship.

Many is the times I cursed Carl Smith.

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If I remember right after Finks three of them Mora, Kuharich and one other convinced Benson to let them do the GM job as a team. This of course saved all three of their sorry arse jobs and was a complete disaster.

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Jim Miller was the third party.

This is the same story I heard from someone who was around for it.

This appealed to Benson because he was ultimately cheap in his heart of hearts and his ego didn’t care for Finks competing with him to be the alpha.

It took years of wandering in the wilderness after Finks for him (Benson) to finally face reality & allow another strong GM into the organization.