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re: Jazzy Jeff Duncan says Rattler has earned the starting job
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:25 am to geauxtigers87
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:25 am to geauxtigers87
Very bad news if so. (Unless they’re just letting Rattler take all the punches and abuse while figuring out the best OL combo to protect Shough).
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:15 am to Gonadballbarian
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He just needs a little more time.
yes, 7 years in college, and he needs more time... how much time we willing to give him? maybe by his 30th birthday, he'll have it figured out
Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:20 am to Cell of Awareness
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Neither looked starter-worthy this preseason past a few moments
b/c neither one of these guys are starting caliber QBs in the NFL.... anyone pretending that they are, or advocating that either one of them could become one, is fricking retarded...
Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:39 am to chRxis
The Saints missed in what may very likely be the steal of the 2025 draft. Riley Leonard has been progressing every week and he looks far more polished in his 3rd preseason game than any QB the saints have drafted over the last decade.
He will not start for Colts this year but if he keeps progressing as fast as he did this preseason, he will likely be competing for the starting job next year.
Just frustrating that the saints did not see the possible high side for the draft cost, but they go for a 7yr college QB who accomplished nothing in college.
He will not start for Colts this year but if he keeps progressing as fast as he did this preseason, he will likely be competing for the starting job next year.
Just frustrating that the saints did not see the possible high side for the draft cost, but they go for a 7yr college QB who accomplished nothing in college.
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:45 am to chRxis
Well I guess I'm retarded according to you. Since 1967 I've seen a lot of qbs that came from nowhere, always injured, passed around from team to team, looked great in college but started like crap in the nfl, played minor league and had a losing record turn it around and become a winning nfl qb. So I believe in "could" . Logically speaking lol
Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:26 am to BowDownToLSU
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If Shough doesn’t start it means that the Saints are admitting they whiffed on a 2nd round pick
This makes no sense. A second round QB pick not starting in game one of his first season means nothing. He actually looks closer to being able to start than I thought he would. There are a few things he does that are NFL ready, like when he goes through progressions, and some things he needs to work on. He’s on a bad team, so it’s not like he’s going to be carried by all the talent around him.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:50 am to chRxis
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yes, 7 years in college, and he needs more time... how much time we willing to give him? maybe by his 30th birthday, he'll have it figured out
So a rookie should've figured out the pro game while he was in college because he had extra time?
I mean by your logic he could be an all pro this year.
Not to mention in college, he only played 18 games in his first three years. 15 games the next three years.
Then... finally started a full season.
Also he still might start this year
Posted on 8/25/25 at 7:10 am to chRxis
This Shough thing has broken some of your brains
Posted on 8/25/25 at 7:56 am to chRxis
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7 years in college,
Yes because every player from college goes on to play pro. If Shough is the guy in Moores mind he might want Rattler get his brains beat in behind the line.
Draft/sign better OL and WR next season and let Shough start season then.
You idiots who thinks this is a wasted pick right now must love grilled cheese sandwiches.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 8:02 am
Posted on 8/25/25 at 8:09 am to geauxtigers87
They both suck
Posted on 8/25/25 at 8:13 am to chRxis
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yes, 7 years in college, and he needs more time... how much time we willing to give him? maybe by his 30th birthday, he'll have it figured out
I was not a fan, AT ALL, of the Shough pick...for some of the reasons you stated. But after watching him play you can at least see the physical ability. He can throw the ball well from many angles and when he's on time and in rhythm he's accurate. That's not to say he will ever be great. But you can clearly see the tools.
I've always thought Rattler would be the starter. But the thing that bothers me about him is that he is indecisive. He can move the ball a bit between the 20s, but last season...and even in the preseason, a lot of his drives stalled out because once the field gets shorter the decisions have to be made quicker. That indecisiveness prevents him from making the plays in scoring position. No turnovers are great. But if you are moving the ball but settling for FGs time and time again it is hard to win games scoring less than 20 points.
Neither looks to be a particularly great option. I just don't think the gap between Rattler and Shough is as big as it may have appeared going into the preseason.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 8:37 am to geauxtigers87
People get very confused about what who the starter is to start the season means.
I have said from the beginning that Rattler will start the first few games, and Shough will play the rest of the season.
Rattler is what he is, but I think they want Shough to get a few games on the sideline, see the speed of the game, see what its like to adjust and review series as the game goes on, adjustments at halftime, etc.
And then he will start and we will see.
I am impressed by how Shough has gradually gotten better as the offseason has worn on. He clearly has much more arm talent than Rattler.
I have said from the beginning that Rattler will start the first few games, and Shough will play the rest of the season.
Rattler is what he is, but I think they want Shough to get a few games on the sideline, see the speed of the game, see what its like to adjust and review series as the game goes on, adjustments at halftime, etc.
And then he will start and we will see.
I am impressed by how Shough has gradually gotten better as the offseason has worn on. He clearly has much more arm talent than Rattler.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 8:47 am to Fun Bunch
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I am impressed by how Shough has gradually gotten better as the offseason has worn on. He clearly has much more arm talent than Rattler.
agreed, i think Rattler will take the first few like you said so Shough can see what goes into it at an NFL level, but at least to me, Shough is clearly the more talented qb and has gotten better each time out
Posted on 8/25/25 at 8:52 am to Alt26
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I was not a fan, AT ALL, of the Shough pick...for some of the reasons you stated. But after watching him play you can at least see the physical ability. He can throw the ball well from many angles and when he's on time and in rhythm he's accurate. That's not to say he will ever be great. But you can clearly see the tools.
i agree with all of this... the dude has a good arm, no one is debating that... i certain am not...
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Neither looks to be a particularly great option. I just don't think the gap between Rattler and Shough is as big as it may have appeared going into the preseason.
agree with all this as well... and the fact that the gap between him and Rattler, another guy i don't think will ever be anything other than a career backup in the NFL, at best, goes to show just how wasted of a pick this guy is...
we should have just rolled with Rattler b/c the results of the season will basically be the same, no matter who you start...could have been nice to roll into next offseason, with some other position filled with a good young player, but instead, we will be investing high draft capital in the QB position in back to back years... only one of them can start, so one of them either Shough or the next guy we draft will HAVE to be labeled as a miss... but that's the conundrum we've set up for ourselves
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:04 am to Fun Bunch
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have said from the beginning that Rattler will start the first few games, and Shough will play the rest of the season.
Rattler ran with the ones at practice all last week, and started the final preseason game. Think they’ve made their intentions pretty clearly
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:04 am to geauxtigers87
If someone cannot see the differences between Shough and Rattler in terms of ability, I don't know what to tell them
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:07 am to geauxtigers87
What games has he been watching?
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:12 am to GynoSandberg
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Rattler ran with the ones at practice all last week, and started the final preseason game. Think they’ve made their intentions pretty clearly
Yes, that Rattler is going to start the first few games.
If he is the starter for all 17 games, there is nothing that would shock me more.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 9:23 am
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:16 am to Fun Bunch
That would have been such a DA move lol
Posted on 8/25/25 at 9:23 am to Fun Bunch
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I have said from the beginning that Rattler will start the first few games, and Shough will play the rest of the season.
Rattler is what he is, but I think they want Shough to get a few games on the sideline, see the speed of the game, see what its like to adjust and review series as the game goes on, adjustments at halftime, etc.
I don't think it is so much that they want Shough to "get a few games on the sideline" as much as they think Rattler's experience, though limited, gives them the best chance to win games early in the season. It it does, they'll keep rolling with him. If not, they'll switch to Shough. But I don't think there is a specific plan to switch to Shough after so many games.
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