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re: Compensation for Payton

Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:37 am to
Posted by Screaming Viking
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:37 am to
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GynoSandberg


thanks for bringing some context to this thread.

Posted by Doug_H
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:38 am to
Thanks for the clarification Gyno
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:08 am to
Definitely overestimating…. I saw elsewhere on here that Arians drew a 6th… not saying the situations are identical but there’s a HUGE difference between the “two firsts” posts I’m seeing here and a sixth rounder
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:15 am to
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I saw elsewhere on here that Arians drew a 6th


not even. Arians drew the value of a swap of a 6th and a 7th rounder.
Posted by Girth Donor
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:20 am to
Where the frick did I say "that's what I would do?" I said the Saints
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:55 am to
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What I think will happen is the Saints will do Payton a "solid" and take less compensation then they could get for him. Just a shitty gut feeling.


This is exactly what I mean. They’re not gonna put up a big stink and play hardball when we’ve already moved on. It sucks but it’s gonna happen.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:56 am to
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Where the frick did I say "that's what I would do?" I said the Saints


i am with you, Girth.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

not saying the situations are identical


Well good, bc they’re not similar

The NFL told the Bucs they were free to sign Arians without compensation. They only exchanged late picks in a deal of good faith bc Arizona balked that they still had Arians’ rights. Arians would’ve been in the final year of his deal in Arizona when he signed with TB. They had just hired Kingsbury and had no reason to play hardball
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:06 pm to
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Parsons and two #1s.

Okay I can get behind this. Parsons is a fricking animal
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:59 pm to
I don’t think this is correct, is it?

I believe his “retirement” pauses the deal, so that whenever he would return he’d still have to fulfill all years remaining before FA. You can’t just wait out your deal
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:51 pm to
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Great.

If he wants to coach in the NFL prior to 2027 it starts at a 1st round pick and access to their roster for compensation.

Two 1st's if it's Dallas or and divisional team.
I'm not saying what is right/wrong or what we should/shouldn't do, but we probably would have some goodwill with Payton and wouldn't not allow him to go to a new team if he really wanted.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
74164 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Definitely overestimating…. I saw elsewhere on here that Arians drew a 6th… not saying the situations are identical but there’s a HUGE difference between the “two firsts” posts I’m seeing here and a sixth rounder


And Gruden drew 2 1sts.

Payton is superior to both.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:56 pm to
Trade will mirror the Gruden trade.

2 1sts, 2 2nds, and cash
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:58 pm to
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2 1sts, 2 2nds, and cash



make them stock the vending machines the next 3 years.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48320 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:03 pm to
a few thoughts. Now that SP has retired, I think the trade value goes down pretty significantly, but I'm still confident there's a first in that deal somewhere.

I think the sooner the better. There are 9 teams shopping for HCs so Im not sure the market will ever be this good.

Lastly, will SPO agree to coach next season? If not, it'll make for a truly awkward situation for whatever team makes the deal.

This is an interesting concept.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12620 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:12 pm to
If Payton decides to get back into coaching, I want everything I can get if he chooses a divisional rival or an NFC team. If he chooses an AFC team, I will be more willing to deal.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Girth Donor
Member since Apr 2011
4427 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:37 pm to
Rubbing your crystal ballS, wasn't the best way to put that, crystal ball
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28284 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:45 pm to
if we were to trade him this year, to Dallas, i could see a 1st and 2nd rounder... next season, 2nd rounder at most
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:35 pm to
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Wasn’t the compensation for Gruden 2 firsts? I mean Payton is twice the coach of Gruden.


I agree, but we are on good terms with Payton. The team won't want to spoil that relationship. As long as he isn't going to a rival or a local rival (ie the Cowboys), I think they will let him go for relatively low compensation. I wish they wouldn't, but I can't imagine Mickey or Gale telling the man who brought this franchise it's only championship "yeah, you can't continue your career unless your future team gives us two drafts" ...
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