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re: Compensation for Payton
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:37 am to GynoSandberg
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:37 am to GynoSandberg
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GynoSandberg
thanks for bringing some context to this thread.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:38 am to GynoSandberg
Thanks for the clarification Gyno
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:08 am to St Augustine
Definitely overestimating…. I saw elsewhere on here that Arians drew a 6th… not saying the situations are identical but there’s a HUGE difference between the “two firsts” posts I’m seeing here and a sixth rounder
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:15 am to Laaz2750
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I saw elsewhere on here that Arians drew a 6th
not even. Arians drew the value of a swap of a 6th and a 7th rounder.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:20 am to Screaming Viking
Where the frick did I say "that's what I would do?" I said the Saints 
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:55 am to Girth Donor
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What I think will happen is the Saints will do Payton a "solid" and take less compensation then they could get for him. Just a shitty gut feeling.
This is exactly what I mean. They’re not gonna put up a big stink and play hardball when we’ve already moved on. It sucks but it’s gonna happen.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:56 am to Girth Donor
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Where the frick did I say "that's what I would do?" I said the Saints
i am with you, Girth.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:00 pm to Laaz2750
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not saying the situations are identical
Well good, bc they’re not similar
The NFL told the Bucs they were free to sign Arians without compensation. They only exchanged late picks in a deal of good faith bc Arizona balked that they still had Arians’ rights. Arians would’ve been in the final year of his deal in Arizona when he signed with TB. They had just hired Kingsbury and had no reason to play hardball
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:06 pm to moneyg
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Parsons and two #1s.
Okay I can get behind this. Parsons is a fricking animal
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:59 pm to LSUfan4444
I don’t think this is correct, is it?
I believe his “retirement” pauses the deal, so that whenever he would return he’d still have to fulfill all years remaining before FA. You can’t just wait out your deal
I believe his “retirement” pauses the deal, so that whenever he would return he’d still have to fulfill all years remaining before FA. You can’t just wait out your deal
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:51 pm to Snipe
quote:I'm not saying what is right/wrong or what we should/shouldn't do, but we probably would have some goodwill with Payton and wouldn't not allow him to go to a new team if he really wanted.
Great.
If he wants to coach in the NFL prior to 2027 it starts at a 1st round pick and access to their roster for compensation.
Two 1st's if it's Dallas or and divisional team.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:53 pm to Laaz2750
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Definitely overestimating…. I saw elsewhere on here that Arians drew a 6th… not saying the situations are identical but there’s a HUGE difference between the “two firsts” posts I’m seeing here and a sixth rounder
And Gruden drew 2 1sts.
Payton is superior to both.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:56 pm to BigPerm30
Trade will mirror the Gruden trade.
2 1sts, 2 2nds, and cash
2 1sts, 2 2nds, and cash
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:58 pm to LSUZombie
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2 1sts, 2 2nds, and cash
make them stock the vending machines the next 3 years.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:03 pm to GynoSandberg
a few thoughts. Now that SP has retired, I think the trade value goes down pretty significantly, but I'm still confident there's a first in that deal somewhere.
I think the sooner the better. There are 9 teams shopping for HCs so Im not sure the market will ever be this good.
Lastly, will SPO agree to coach next season? If not, it'll make for a truly awkward situation for whatever team makes the deal.
This is an interesting concept.
I think the sooner the better. There are 9 teams shopping for HCs so Im not sure the market will ever be this good.
Lastly, will SPO agree to coach next season? If not, it'll make for a truly awkward situation for whatever team makes the deal.
This is an interesting concept.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:12 pm to Vacherie Saint
If Payton decides to get back into coaching, I want everything I can get if he chooses a divisional rival or an NFC team. If he chooses an AFC team, I will be more willing to deal.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:37 pm to Screaming Viking
Rubbing your crystal ballS, wasn't the best way to put that, crystal ball
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:45 pm to BigPerm30
if we were to trade him this year, to Dallas, i could see a 1st and 2nd rounder... next season, 2nd rounder at most
Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:35 pm to BigPerm30
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Wasn’t the compensation for Gruden 2 firsts? I mean Payton is twice the coach of Gruden.
I agree, but we are on good terms with Payton. The team won't want to spoil that relationship. As long as he isn't going to a rival or a local rival (ie the Cowboys), I think they will let him go for relatively low compensation. I wish they wouldn't, but I can't imagine Mickey or Gale telling the man who brought this franchise it's only championship "yeah, you can't continue your career unless your future team gives us two drafts" ...
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