re: Yearly NBA trade thread, BREAKING: Mark Williams trade rescinded by Lakers

So the trade makes sense for next year if you think the team has a chance to be pretty good. Shows how little value BI has.

However, it's such a massive fail on Griff's part.

Basically we will have traded BI and Daniels and picks for Capela and Murray. Oof.

Capela has one year left and fills a giant hole in the roster.

Next year's lineup:

Murray
Herb
Trey
Zion
Capela

Jose
Missi
Hawkins
Top 5 rookie

That should be a playoff team. Just sucks how we've squandered assets.

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I hate the value for BI if that's all it is, but I like Capella for Missi. Capella is one of the better comps for Missi so he can probably be a great mentor for him.

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I guess the question is what's better:

Capela or nothing?

If the offers are that shite, I guess Capela.

I'd prefer expirings and a first or two but I really think BI's value is toast.

I could totally see him getting about the same as Derozan signed for. People thinking he's getting $40 million are going to be surprised.

I think the only way you’re getting a first for BI is if you take back a bad contract. If you can get capela and some 2nds you gotta just take it

I love the idea of getting Capella, and have since the summer. But yeah, we need to get “something” else.

What I can’t figure out is how the Hawks would intend to pay for BI. During the summer discussions, it was never that the Hawks didn’t want Bi. It’s that they can’t afford him.

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I love the idea of getting Capella, and have since the summer. But yeah, we need to get “something” else.

What I can’t figure out is how the Hawks would intend to pay for BI. During the summer discussions, it was never that the Hawks didn’t want Bi. It’s that they can’t afford him.

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Can't be both Capela & Okongwu; they'd only have zeller as a center IIRC.

I actually thought about it, wonder if Risacher is potentially part of it. he would fit as the backup 3/4; allowing capela to be the other center we need (rather than Okongwu). We can also send out Hawkins. Atlanta sends us 2 1sts (likely the milwaukee one back and something else)

It'd immediately help Atlanta out where their lineup goes offensive heavy.
PG: Young/Krejci
SG: Daniels/Hawkins/Mathews
SF: Ingram/Bogdanovic
PF: Hunter/Nance Jr
C: Okongwu/Barlow/Nance Jr

Next year we can be looking at:
PG: Murray/Alvarado
SG: McCollum/Jones
SF: Murphy/Jones/Risacher
PF: Williamson/Risacher
C: Capela/Missi

I can’t ever figure out why people say it didn’t work. We were way better having those guys than without. And would be way better with Capella. Maybe not trade Ingram kindof better, but you would certainly want him on roster.

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However, it's such a massive fail on Griff's part. Basically we will have traded BI and Daniels and picks for Capela and Murray. Oof.

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This woukd be hilarious after the board thought all summer BI was worth infinitely more than just Murray.

And other posters kept arguing with me that DD ‘might’ be worth a late first in a shite draft.

BI has less value than DD by himself now. What a complete disaster if Griff makes this trade lol….

Griff should have just passed on the Murray trade if BI wasn’t apart of it. Just another frick up in the long line of frick up I’ve pointed out over the years….

They clog the lane, and they can't play switching defense. It forces us to play a defensive scheme we don't want to play, nor is effective at the end of games or in the playoffs.
Capala can't even be on the court at the end of games b/c he's that terrible of a free throw shooter.
WHy on earth do we need someone who's goign to be similar to Missi, and will likely be worse than Missi by the end of next season? The fact that we drafted Missi and he's looking to be a competent 5 as a rim runner and defender makes it even more obvious that the backup or starting 5 that we get to pair with Missi needs to be a threat to shoot the ball. Even just being a threat from the elbow is better than zero threat whatsoever from outside 3' of the rim.


Look at these two shot charts.



Zion is a -7.5 NETRtg with one of those for this year. Last on the team as far as Zion pairings go.
He's a +4.5 with the other one. First on the team for Zion.
That's our 2 centers this year.

ZIon was in the +NETRtg the last 2 years with JV, as well as with Larry.
an example of JV's shot chart last year



Zion had a - NETRtg with Steven Adams.
an example of his shot chart in 2021



Here's Capela's shot chart.


Looks like the right kind of center for Zion

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So the trade makes sense for next year if you think the team has a chance to be pretty good.

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It doesn't. That's a team that struggles to make the play-in