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re: "We still don’t have evidence that the NBA works in New Orleans" - Bill Simmons

Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11483 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:44 pm to
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or Kings


Weird fact I heard the other day. The Kings are the oldest franchise in the NBA. Started in 1923.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50500 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:31 pm to
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CP3/West/Chandler/Peja


Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291585 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:32 pm to
dis is Gayle’s baby won’t happen!
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
1660 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:54 am to
He gives props to the Pels when it’s deserved
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72403 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 7:20 am to
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This guy is a clown that says shite like that so he gets clicks and attention.


Is saying a basically irrelevant franchise shouldn’t be in a tiny market really that big of a content mover?
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2478 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 10:01 am to
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This guy is a clown that says shite like that so he gets clicks and attention.


If he was going after clicks he wouldn’t bring up the Pelicans. We are run like a third rate organization which makes us an easy target.
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
1559 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 10:42 am to
His comments about basketball culture don't ring true.

The Pels are in the top half of the league in local ratings.

In national TV games, NOLA is top 5 consistently. Sometimes the highest rated market that doesn't have a team in that particular game.

The organization has struggled, but it's not due to the local love of basketball.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30697 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:57 am to
Nola just isn't a big enough metro area to support the Saints and another major professional team that doesn't win consistently, mainly b/c of LSU.


Between a 73,000 seat Saints team, 100,000 seat LSU team, and a 10,000+ seat Pelicans, LSU basketball, LSU baseball teams, there's just a lot butts to fill in those seats in an area that just doesn't have the population to maintain that, especially when the team sucks arse.
Nola/BR is about 2.2M people.
Look at the other cities in that 2.2M and under range. None of them are supporting an NFL team and a 100,000 seat college football team within an hour of them, on top of 3 more teams that have 10-15K seat arenas:
Green Bay 325K - Only 1 NFL team
Buffalo 1.1M - Bills and Sabres, no college nearby
OKC 1.5M - NBA (OU nearby, no nfl team)
Milwaukee 1.6M - NBA and MLB (no nfl, UW an hour and a half away)
Nashville 2M - NFL and NHL (no one cares about Vandy)
Indianapolis 2.2M - NFL and NBA (Bloomington is an hour away, and only recently did anyone care about IU football and it's capacity is almost half of Tiger Stadium)
Kansas City 2.2M - NFL and MLB (and the Royals are one of the worst MLB teams in regards to attendance, and Missouri is 2 hours away)
CIncy 2.2M - NFL and MLB, not near OSU and university of cincinatti's football stadium holds under 40,000.

None of those area populations is have a major city nearby like i included with BR, and none of those metro area are supporting an NFL team, a NBA or NHL team, and then also a major university (one that has a huge football stadium, and will have 3 other sports putting 10,000+ butts in seats). None of those metro areas i listed are coming close to having to fill in over 200,000 seats in their stadiums/arenas. Cincy is the closest around 150k.
Pittsburgh is the only other city supporting probably more than it can handle with the Steelers, Pirates (terrible attendance), Penguins, and then Pitt's almost 70k football stadium. They are at just over 200k seats between all of them when you include Pitt basketball, and there metro area is 2.3M, and the median income in Pittsburg is around $75K compared to Nola's around $65K.


The only way for the Pelicans to get support is if they are winners, and even then, it will always be difficult to get butts in seats until Jan/Feb b/c of football.
Posted by LSUpelsSaints
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2014
521 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 11:59 am to
It is a shame that the city/fans are the ones who get criticized when this argument comes up.

Every single time this franchise has had any sort of success, it has quickly come crumbling down to the ground.

The few and far between playoff appearances have shown that we do have a great fanbase. Blender is absolutely rocking in those situations....... however, this team can never build any consistent momentum to keep fans there.

The owner and her management group are a complete joke and have no clue what they're doing when it comes to the NBA. Aside from hardly winning, they've also stripped away fan perks/amenities and driven up ticket prices to keep loyal fans from consistently wanting to go.

I do think a new owner would absolutely go a long way in bringing NBA success to New Orleans. That's the #1 root cause.
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
8087 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 12:13 pm to
Build a team and the fans will be in the seats. Like someone said, when the "Hornets" made the playoffs, the town was buzzin.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26758 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:38 pm to
Well Bill, we don’t have evidence that you suck dick either, but we have our suspicions.
Posted by Germantiger001
Southeast LA
Member since Jun 2016
1240 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 4:40 pm to
He’s right with the criticism of the ownership. They are not serious about winning, much less competing for championships. We can’t even get above 500 consistently.

He’s wrong about the fanbase supporting a team. If we were a consistently contending team, we’d fill that area every night. How does anyone expect a fanbase to be enthusiastic about the shite they roll out. Do you think Celtics fans would put up with that bullshite?
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12343 posts
Posted on 8/4/26 at 8:47 pm to
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The Simmons beef literally goes back to 2002. He is very weirdly fixated on this city and even does it with the Saints sometimes. He just doesn't like it here.

I really think it’s a weird jealousy he has of the city of New Orleans when comparing it to the city of Boston. That’s all I got.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
43480 posts
Posted on 8/5/26 at 9:28 am to
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In national TV games, NOLA is top 5 consistently. Sometimes the highest rated market that doesn't have a team in that particular game.


Link?

quote:

The organization has struggled, but it's not due to the local love of basketball.


Fans only go when the Pels are winning. Probably my least favorite argument for New Orleans being a basketball city is "If you win the fans will show up." That is quite literally the definition of a bandwagon fan base.

A basketball city shows up even when the team sucks, like in Detroit. Even when they were bad their attendance was near the top in the league. When the Pels are bad, the stadium is empty. Hell last year there were games where concession stands weren't even open because not enough people were there to justify them being open.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163067 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:16 am to
A more competent ownership/front office makes better hires, personnel decisions. At a certain point you have to get your head out of your arse and can’t chalk this franchise’s mediocre to shitty succes rate up to simply bad luck, it’s a trend.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
8932 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 12:42 pm to
Spot on. Sell, Gayle!
Posted by Tank77
Member since Mar 2019
1028 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 6:13 pm to
Yes a better and competent ownership and front office makes boogie make that free throw and not tear his Achilles. Also Todd Graves probably makes Zion actually do his job and Ingram to stay healthy. Do I think the front office/ownership is bad, Yes. But we gotta call a spade a spade
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50635 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:25 pm to
It’s not working
the franchise is withering away along with the fanbase. Anyone who sees evidence to the contrary is being untruthful
Posted by XLR84Speed
Member since Jun 2026
133 posts
Posted on 8/8/26 at 10:15 am to
He not wrong. Stephen A. Smith not wrong either for what he said earlier in the year too.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28043 posts
Posted on 8/8/26 at 12:10 pm to
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He not wrong


He is wrong, and you know hes wrong, but anything going against this bullshite narrative you love to espouse isnt getting acknowledged by you.
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