re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread

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I feel like we are still paying for our sins of trading Tyson Chandler

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Big facts! I never understood that trade!!

Chandler’s foot had bad medicals and our staff wanted him out before he had chronic issues, hence getting Okafor.

Problem is that the medical were wrong, which isn’t a surprise given our medical staff, and his issues didn’t block him from winning a chip with the Mavs.


That being said, his foot DID fail medical for a trade with the Thunder. Trying to remember who would have come other than Nick fricking Collison as it was mainly a salary dump IIRC.

Won’t deny that but Chandler failing a physical with the Thunder supports that claim.

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This seems crazy to me as I don't see Clingan as much of an upgrade over Kessler.

Getting a center back as part of a BI/Nance trade, plus trading a future lottery protected 1st for Kessler and using 21 on a center and all of a sudden your center committee is pretty solid, which is all you need it to be.

I don't get that either.
Neither one of them can shoot free throws much less 3's, so their only offense is rim running and hustling.
And Kessler was better in college than Clingan. They are extremely similar players in almost every way.


I would absolutely love if we could get Kessler as our starter, draft a center at #21, and keep Larry and that's our three 5's for the season.

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That being said, his foot DID fail medical for a trade with the Thunder. Trying to remember who would have come other than Nick fricking Collison as it was mainly a salary dump IIRC.

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The trade was actually Chandler for Chris Wilcox, Joe Smith and the draft rights to DeVon Hardin. Just a salary dump.

My dumb trade of the day b/c i like playing with the trade machine.

ATL gets Mikal Bridges

Philly gets CJ

Jazz get Dyson

Pels get Dejounte Murray, Walker Kessler, 2 Philly 1sts, CJ's $33M trade exception

Nets get #1 overall pick, future ATL 1st, 2 future Pels 1st, future philly 1st

Once FA starts, send Larry to Nets for a S&T of Claxton.
Draft Daron Holmes

Murray/Jose
Herb/Hawkins
BI/Trey/Naji/Ryan
Zion/HolmesMarko
Claxton/Kessler/Zeller


Murray/Herb/BI/Trey/Zion is the closing lineup, and the core of the team, and we are at about $160M in salaries with those 14, likely a tax team next year.

Do bc we trade for Paul Reed and he’s not in the lineup?

I had Paul Reed in it at first, but then i figured if we are getting Claxton and Kessler, and keeping Trey, there really aren't any minutes for him at the 4, so i figured we just get another pick from Philly instead and draft Holmes.

I'd like to give BI/Zion one more year together.
I think we can resign BI to a 4 year extension worth $194M.
That starts him out at $43M/yr in 2025/26

The reason i say 4/$194, is b/c if he were to play one more year and leave in FA, then the most another team can offer him is 4 years and $191M. They can also only give 5% annual increases. If we resign him we can give him 8% increases. This allows us to get him at $43M in year 1, where as if he signs elsewhere he'd get $45M.

I don't think it would be difficult to move BI at that rate, with the salary cap increasing so much over the next few years. And that's assuming this lineup of Murray/Herb/Trey/BI/Zion isn't working. And we've got plenty of assets still left over, and a massive trade exception to use if we want.




I think the cieling for this team is higher if we have BI on the team and CJ not on the team, as opposed to CJ on the team and BI not on the team. And i say that b/c if it's Murray we are getting back, then we can get him with either one of those players.

I wonder if we overvalue Kessler because he dominates us.

I don't watch Jazz games except vs us and that dude kills us.