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re: Stein: Hawks have emerged as potential trade destination for Jrue in multi-team deal

Posted on 11/11/20 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by supe12sta12z
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 3:57 pm to
You’re wrong. Shams reported it A week ago. I don’t give a shite how griffin or the local guys try to spin it, there way too many signs from the national guys to be just “listening” and if you buy that nonsense, I don’t know what to tell you.

The organization has been extremely careful not to speak of Holiday especially during SVG press conference and shortly after, a wave of rumors hit regarding Holiday from the national guys.

Holiday is gone and we are going to take what we can get. There’s nothing we do that will change that.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:00 pm to
I doubt doubt what you're saying.
Like i said, we can't play Lonzo and Jrue together, and sounds like we chose Lonzo to keep b/c we can get better assets for Jrue.
That might not mean Jrue is the one that said he doesn't want to be here and that's why we are trading him. Maybe we made the decision that we didn't want him anymore.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:01 pm to
Guess y'all are right. Why would we want a vet PG who can facilitate coming off of a season averaging 20pts 7asst 3.5reb. Certainly isn't worth a mid 1st pick in a weak draft and a 2nd year player who hasn't done much. I'm dumb.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:08 pm to
Money is a factor in this too. Look at how much interest there is in Jrue, even if he wants to stay it won't be for a discount. The Pels just can't afford to overpay Jrue like Brooklyn, where he'd be the missing piece, or Atlanta, where they have nothing but rookie deals on the books.
Posted by supe12sta12z
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:12 pm to
Jrue going to a contender Nets us the best value since those teams can probably convince him to extend or at the very least opt in. We have to get viable assets to turn it into quality assets through a third team. As long as NJN, Den, and GSW have strong interest, we should be able to get some good value for Holiday.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Why would we want a vet PG


if he was a PG, we might not be trading him.
If Lonzo was a PG, we might not be trading him.
But neither of them are PG's, and we can't keep trotting both of them out there as our 1-2 guards turning the ball over at ridiculous rates.

We didn't make the playoffs back in the day with Jrue as the PG. We did when Tyreke was our PG. Jrue has never been a PG.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:21 pm to
How would the Nets feel about Huerter as a cheap replacement of Joe Harris? Harris has leverage on the Nets to get paid and the Nets are looking at about $15 million worth of Levert/Dinwiddie to turn into $30+ million worth of Jrue.

Pels: Dinwiddie, #6, #19, future Brooklyn 1st
Nets: Jrue, Huerter
Hawks: Levert
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:26 pm to
quote:


if he was a PG
Pretty sure he's talking about Dinwiddie
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

Pels: Dinwiddie, #6, #19, future Brooklyn 1st
Nets: Jrue, Huerter
Hawks: Levert

Would do it.

Just kinda depends on how the Hawks feel about LeVert.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:40 pm to
That's asking too much from Brooklyn. They already wouldn't gain any cap trading Dinwiddie/ LaVert for Jrue. They still would have to pay Harris as well. With Jrue, Kyrie, Harris, KD, Prince I doubt they want a guy that still needs development only to get deeper in the tax.

Edit: Huerter is more repetitive for the Nets while adding Jrue, especially if they keep Harris. NAW makes since considering Dinwiddie would be traded and it gives the Nets another small minute PG option. Also the Nets aren't sending out Dinwiddie and LeVert along with 2 first rd picks.
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:44 pm to
His point is that they can take Huerter and let Harris walk, I think.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:47 pm to
More of a question than a point, but yes, that's what I was getting at - Can Huerter take Harris' place so they save money, and if Huerter can do that then they throw in a future 1st getting the Pels more assets for Jrue.
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 4:48 pm
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 4:52 pm to
The pelicans have the advantage in this situation. I can't see us giving the Nets Jrue and allowing them to scoop up Huerter too without us taking him in that trade.
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 5:11 pm to
What about something simple like:

Nets get Jrue
Hawks get Levert
Pelicans get #6

Filler could be added throughout if needed, but seems like a framework that could work for each team. My only concern would be at what point do Pels have too many young players and not enough vets?
Posted by FMtTXtiger
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 5:13 pm to
I want Kat

Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 5:13 pm to
We acquired Jrue for the #6 pick and another top 10 pick.
Getting back just the #6 pick for him isn't fair value, assuming he's signing an extension.
Posted by supe12sta12z
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 5:16 pm to
That’s definitely a concern. Then you have to consider that there’s a chance Redick could be moved by the deadline. There has to be a plan in place to add some quality vets to this team.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

We acquired Jrue for the #6 pick and another top 10 pick.
Getting back just the #6 pick for him isn't fair value, assuming he's signing an extension.


What we traded for a 23 year old Jrue 7 years ago is completely irrelevant.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 5:35 pm to
I beg to differ. His stats the past 3-4 seasons are the best of his career besides his 3pt %. If Jrue is more physical and playing better than he did when we traded for him then why would we trade him for half that value essentially just because?
Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 11/11/20 at 5:45 pm to
I'd be curious to see if Pels would try to get Collins out of it. He would be a good fit with BI and Zion and give something of a big 3.

Something like seeing LaVert, 13 and 19 going to Atlanta for 6 and Collins. Atlanta may want a little more, or they may have soured enough on Collins to do that.
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 5:46 pm
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