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Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:14 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Typical Dan. In one thread you're calling Trey a potential all-star with room to grow and a reason to be excited for the team. In another thread criticizing a guy for calling him a near star.
Yes because Trey can be a potential all star and Herb will not. He's a high level defender and that's about it. Sorry that hurts y'alls feelings?
Trey just turned 26 y/o and can still improve. Herb is what he is and does nothing for us on offense. 30 teams want one of those guys and only 10 or less teams who want to contend value Herb because that's where his value is.
No team stuck in the road or rebuilding wants Herb or pays for him.
The fact that I have to even write all that....
Jose all over again. Y'all are so obsessed with him you can't see why it makes sense to get rid of him.
Herb is firmly our 7th most important asset behind Murray/ Zion/ Trey/ Bey/ Fears/ Queen and maybe 8th behind Missi after this season.
Zion/ Trey just turned 26 y/o and Herb is 28 y/o.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 9:18 am
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:17 am to Dantheman504
Well I assumed he was talking about the 26 year old Trey when he said 26 year old not the almost 28 year old Herb.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:17 am to Dantheman504
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Mathruin would be a great addition
No he would not. Mathurin just isn't very good. Sure, players have 2nd 3rd and 4th chances and find their way, but on paper this is a flyer move. He could do something with his career, he could turn out to be good, but he hasn't so far
Trading Herb for Mathurin would make me melt if I cared about this franchise at all anymore. Now I will just chuckle
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:20 am to PELsu
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We need a center you dumb fs!!!!
We also need a scoring spark off the bench. Poole and Hawk aren’t it. Mathurin could be it, and if they play it right they could have enough under the tax to offer a full MLE to a center, or trade for one making MLE money, or loop in one in a trade like Gafford.
We could realistically have:
Out: Poole, Hawk, Herb
In: Mathurin, DJJ, Gafford, picks
With that said, with this FO we also could have:
Out: Trey, Herb, picks
In: Mathurin, Brook Lopez
We have no idea which way they will go
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 9:23 am
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:20 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Well I assumed he was talking about the 26 year old Trey when he said 26 year old not the almost 28 year old Herb.
So it was just a response to a dumb comment that had nothing to do with Mathurin or Herb. Got it. Everyone else was talking about Herb, didn't see the random pointless comment about Trey. Didn't really deserve a response.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:24 am to Fun Bunch
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No he would not. Mathurin just isn't very good. Sure, players have 2nd 3rd and 4th chances and find their way, but on paper this is a flyer move. He could do something with his career, he could turn out to be good, but he hasn't so far
Mathurin for $20mil isn't better than Poole/ Hawk @ $41mil?
If its Mathurin and a 1st then cool. If its just Herb for Mathurin then that kinda sucks but I'll hold my breathe until we see what happens with Hawk/ Poole.
We aren't trading Herb for Mathurin and keeping Poole/ Hawk so there's clearly more to the big plan here.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:31 am to Dantheman504
Mathurin is a shite player, regardless of the contract and in no universe is he our future SG. The kid was a bust. If we traded Herb, who has real value, for Mathurin who has very little, we'll be worse than we already are. And we're already a bottom five franchise.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:31 am to Tank77
Mathurin is not good. All he does is score at OK efficiency. He doesn’t defend, he doesn’t pass, he rebounds only OK. He’s a completely empty calorie player.
Total Dumars move. This will lock us into 30 wins for the foreseeable future
Total Dumars move. This will lock us into 30 wins for the foreseeable future
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:35 am to RUFshreve
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If we traded Herb, who has real value, for Mathurin who has very little, we'll be worse than we already are. And we're already a bottom five franchise.
Right and then if we show a clear plan that we are going to rebuild everyone in here will say its the worst thing ever and we have no plan like they already did on page 1?
So what would make y'all happy? If we make moves to contend then it's dumb because we simply aren't/ won't and we are wasting assets with no plan.
If we make moves to rebuild then its dumb, we are wasting assets and have no plan?
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:39 am to Dantheman504
The tweet didn't even specify the actual package. It just said potential Herb for Mathurin S&T. And everyone is in here already calling it the worst thing ever. Mathruin for Herb, not great. Mathruin + 1st for Herb? Mathurin + 2 1st for Herb?
Everyone should take a breathe.
Everyone should take a breathe.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:41 am to Dantheman504
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Mathurin for $20mil isn't better than Poole/ Hawk @ $41mil?
Where is this being discussed? Where is this deal being alleged?
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:47 am to Fun Bunch
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Where is this being discussed? Where is this deal being alleged?
Really? Y'all are going freak out about a scenario that doesn't exist and then play semantics game like you don't know damn well what was meant by this? Don't be dense.
It was always going to be Herb/ Poole/ Hawk if we made moves.
I'd rather trade Herb for Mathruin + 1st > trade a 1st for Mathruin and still need a C.
LAC: Herb
MIL: 1st LAC/ Poole
Pels: Mathurin/ Turner
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:55 am to Dantheman504
Herb is a very good player. Mathurin is not a good player. This is the perfect trial for who really knows basketball. If you can’t see the above, you probably should avoid deep basketball conversations, as well as running an NBA team. And if the plan is to pay Mathurin $15+ million to come off the bench, that’s a terrible terrible plan.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:02 am to PELsu
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And if the plan is to pay Mathurin $15+ million to come off the bench, that’s a terrible terrible plan.
Mathurin would be part of a bigger plan.. The "plan" would include Herb and anyone else we plan to trade along with Mathurin and anyone else we plan to acquire.
We need a C more than a backup SG so yes I agree that if we only plan to trade Herb for Mathurin straight up then it doesnt make sense.
Trading Herb for Mathurin and a 1st with a chance for Mathurin to mature/ develop is not a terrible plan considering we aren't winning a championship and are blatantly wasting Herb as an asset here at that point.
Hate to break it to y'all but Herb will NOT be the make or break if we are contending or playing at a high level.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:07 am to Dantheman504
Anyone want to give Dumars credit for trying to trade assets at their highest value? No? Right.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 10:08 am
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:08 am to Dantheman504
quote:Please explain why Mathurin would be a great addition to this team and what contract you would offer him.
We need a C and a SG. Mathruin would be a great addition replacing Poole/ Hawk and there's a chance he develops and can be our future starting SG.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:11 am to Dantheman504
quote:Which assets were those?
Anyone want to give Dumars credit for trying to trade assets at their highest value? No? Right.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:11 am to NOSHAU
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Please explain why Mathurin would be a great addition to this team and what contract you would offer him.
Mathurin = timeline fit for Fears/ Queen
Mathurin > Poole/ Hawk
Mathurin= Could still develop
Do those things sound like a bad addition?
The people bitching about trading Herb are the same people that don't think we win 30 games.
Please be honest when I ask you: What the frick is Herb worth here if we are a 30 win team?
All of the sudden y'all think we will be winners and its because of Herb? Are y'all being dishonest about Herb's importance or dishonest about how good we are?
When we don't trade for a player we are dumb because all of our players are meaningless and can't win but when we do trade a player we are dumb because that player is the 2nd coming of Michael Jordan. Bipolar arse fans.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 10:31 am
Posted on 7/28/26 at 10:12 am to NOSHAU
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Which assets were those?
Jose and now Herb? All y'all have done is bitch about us doing exactly what y'all have bitched about us not doing for 5+ years.
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