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re: Official 2018 Trade Deadline Thread: Update Dante to Brooklyn
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:39 pm to DeionDeion
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:39 pm to DeionDeion
I love me some VanVleet. Just like in college, he just always seems to be in proper positioning and is always making the right play.
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:02 am to 504Voodoo
So what is this team going forward if we add Monroe?
Davis, Cousins, Mirotic, Monroe & Jrue... that’s a great line up in 1992.
Alvin Gentry is the coach... that’s never a good thing.
I’m extatic we dumped Asik, I just don’t know what this team is now.
Davis, Cousins, Mirotic, Monroe & Jrue... that’s a great line up in 1992.
Alvin Gentry is the coach... that’s never a good thing.
I’m extatic we dumped Asik, I just don’t know what this team is now.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:23 am to Suntiger
Monroe won’t be here next year and Mirotic is a very nice piece to have with AD and Boogie especially since Boogie will have restricted minutes most all next season.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:28 am to Suntiger
Monroe would be a fill in for the rest of this year and wouldn’t be here next year.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:36 am to Suntiger
On the roster next year for sure: Jrue, AD, Boogie, Mirotic, Miller
Very likely: Moore, Hill, Frank Jackson
50/50: Diallo, Rondo
So, to me, you got your 48 minutes at PF/C locked down with three elite guys. You probably got your 48 minutes at SG locked down. I think Rondo could come back because of his relationship with Boogie and Mirotic but it has to be in a backup role.They will still need a PG next year..Jackson won't be ready
Then, the key to it all could be Hill. Does he return to form? If so, do they keep him or try to package him with the first for an upgrade or an equal player on a smaller salary to avoid the tax?
Assuming they dump Ajinca and Benson let's them go slightly over the tax, this team would be a solid PG away from being a top 3 seed IMO. Assuming Boogie is 80-90 percent in 2019
Very likely: Moore, Hill, Frank Jackson
50/50: Diallo, Rondo
So, to me, you got your 48 minutes at PF/C locked down with three elite guys. You probably got your 48 minutes at SG locked down. I think Rondo could come back because of his relationship with Boogie and Mirotic but it has to be in a backup role.They will still need a PG next year..Jackson won't be ready
Then, the key to it all could be Hill. Does he return to form? If so, do they keep him or try to package him with the first for an upgrade or an equal player on a smaller salary to avoid the tax?
Assuming they dump Ajinca and Benson let's them go slightly over the tax, this team would be a solid PG away from being a top 3 seed IMO. Assuming Boogie is 80-90 percent in 2019
Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:36 am to Markie812
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Mirotic is a very nice piece to have with AD and Boogie especially since Boogie will have restricted minutes most all next season.
I get that, but are we any different than the .500 team we currently are next year? Is Boogie still going to be a PG? What are we?
Posted on 2/2/18 at 7:02 am to Suntiger
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I get that, but are we any different than the .500 team we currently are next year?
I would think adding Mirotic and Hill would make the team better than they've been this year.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 7:04 am to Suntiger
We were a 6th seed with Boogie. Next year with the addition of Mirotic I think we can improve a seed or two.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 7:22 am to Suntiger
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I get that, but are we any different than the .500 team we currently are next year? Is Boogie still going to be a PG? What are we?
we were 6 games over .500, not .500, and not sure if you were aware, but only 2 games out of the 3 spot when Cousins went down, and we were kicking on all cylinders finally. You get Hill back, you add Mirotic, find a PG, and this is a top 4 team easily, assuming good health, which is probably a stupid assumption.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 7:59 am to TeddyPadillac
Yeah the Pels were streaking. If Cousins wouldn’t have got hurt and they got Mirotic and Hill back we would have been in great shape to contend in the playoffs.
The current Pels are kind of like the 08 Lakers with three stud big men and a stud SG. Obviously Kobe was better than Holiday, but the Pels big men are better than what the Lakers had back then.
The current Pels are kind of like the 08 Lakers with three stud big men and a stud SG. Obviously Kobe was better than Holiday, but the Pels big men are better than what the Lakers had back then.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:49 am to Colonel Flagg
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Yeah the Pels were streaking. If Cousins wouldn’t have got hurt and they got Mirotic and Hill back we would have been in great shape to contend in the playoffs.
without a doubt. and we wouldn't have been a 7 or 8 seed.
We were 6 games over .500, was turning the corner, still had a favorable schedule, was about to get Hill back, make a trade for Mirotic. The idea of us winning 50 games this year was a very easy one to wrap your head around.
We were at the point where we can go .500 without Cousins, and still win 45 games. Wouldn't have been hard to get to 50.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 10:00 am to Crewz
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this team would be a solid PG away from being a top 3 seed IMO.
I'm not used to seeing this optimism out of you. I don't like it.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:16 am to Crewz
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this team would be a solid PG away from being a top 3 seed IMO
not sure they even need to find a "PG"
if Boogie can still operate from outside, they can get by with more secondary ball handlers. a guard with similar ball handling skills to Holiday could probably get the job done
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:26 am to corndeaux
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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn 1 minute ago Source: Full protections on New Orleans' 2018 first-round pick to Chicago in Mirotic deal: 2018: top 5; 2019: top 8; 2020: top 10; 2021: top 9. If somehow it still isn't conveyed to Bulls in 2021, it becomes a second-round pick in each of 2022 and 2023.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:26 am to corndeaux
@wojespn: Source: Full protections on New Orleans' 2018 first-round pick to Chicago in Mirotic deal: 2018: top 5; 2019: top 8; 2020: top 10; 2021: top 9. If somehow it still isn't conveyed to Bulls in 2021, it becomes a second-round pick in each of 2022 and 2023.
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 11:28 am
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:35 am to corndeaux
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not sure they even need to find a "PG"
if Boogie can still operate from outside, they can get by with more secondary ball handlers. a guard with similar ball handling skills to Holiday could probably get the job done
Agreed, it comes down to just needing another guard who can actually stay on the court, handle the ball in spurts, and not be a huge defensive liability. Point boogie reduces his turnovers by 1 a game by allowing him rest. It's those unforced turnovers when he's tired that needs to be fixed.
Dinwiddie is really the guy everyone is pushing and I think it's definitely right the more you think about it. Or someone like him too. Moore and Clark aren't the solution, if tyreke wouldn't be so a bone head he really could be.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:36 am to Chad504boy
From Mason Ginsberg Twitter regarding Mike Scotto article
Glad the Lakers and Mavs didn't agree to the first two. Ooof. Would do two 2nds for the 3rd, but LAL won't take on salary for next year.
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A few great tidbits from Mike on the #Pelicans' due diligence before the Mirotic trade:
1) Pels offered Asik, Ajinca & a 1st to DAL for W. Matthews (before Boogie's injury)
2) Pels offered Asik & a 1st to LAL for J. Clarkson
3) Pels offered Ajinca & a 2nd to LAL for J. Randle
Glad the Lakers and Mavs didn't agree to the first two. Ooof. Would do two 2nds for the 3rd, but LAL won't take on salary for next year.
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 11:38 am
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:44 am to NOFOX
Which means that Ajinca and second is still in play.
But IMO not in this Lakers package. What is the sense of additional salary for them? They want max cap space
But IMO not in this Lakers package. What is the sense of additional salary for them? They want max cap space
Posted on 2/2/18 at 12:09 pm to pawel
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Which means that Ajinca and second is still in play.
I am sure Dell is working the phones for something like Anjiica + 2018 2nd + 2019 2nd for Noel and Devin Harris.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 12:10 pm to NOFOX
Dell better have 1 more trick up his sleeve
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