re: Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread

IF we could land him, Hill, Ajinca and 2-1sts, if we can get him to re-sign..

I believe he wants to go to the eastern conference though

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Better sign him as a FA...

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how?
into cap space?

that would gut the team

looks like pels can get right at 20MM space if they revoke all UFA cap holds.
that ain’t gonna get it done for a jimmy butler FA contract

one last thought...the twolves are in a bad spot. When they do the max extension for KAT they will really be in a cap twist going forward. A five year 30MM contract for butler might not be doable.

They’ll need to keep their options open with butler and he’s not going to like that

they will have plenty of trade offers to sift thru

I don't know if Butler is the 'dream' guy. Think about his fit.

Those who haven't watched him probably think he is a good defensive player because that is how he started out, but those days are gone. Offensively, he stops the ball more than he moves it and prefers iso's and mid range to the 3 ball.

Then, you probably have to give him a 4 or 5 year max to keep him. Jrue probably becomes less aggressive with Butler on the roster. I mean, you'd probably still take him if you can get him but give me the choice of Middleton or Butler and I take Middleton 10 times out of 10. I'd probably take Otto Porter over Butler too. But I'd take Butler over Harrison Barnes

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Offensively, he stops the ball more than he moves it and prefers iso's and mid range to the 3 ball.

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This. While butler is better than guys like solo, he's a ball stopper. He demands the ball a lot, which is something you rarely hear about but watch his last year in Chicago and even in Minny.

Defensively, he's pretty good but he's not lock down any longer.

He's an upgrade, but you can't cap yourself out by trading for him and giving him a 4-5yr max.

My point with Butler was that I would rather sign him as a FA and not in a trade because I dont like the fit. I understand that this franchise will rather trade than sign FA. And that we dont have much capspace left.

Butler is 29. I dont see a team paying him 4-5 year max.
With a plan Pels can get to $25M. Probably wont be enough.

As to Howard trade. One pick was for value. Second one for dumping Asik. And we dont know what were the other parts of that trade. Maybe Pels were getting back a second. Also remember that it was mid 2016/17. So 2.5 years of Asik plus guaranteed $3M of another. TBC - I hated that deal. But it was a lot of Asik money.

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And hes got that junkyard dog in him which is great. But he's also sort of a prick- will he be willing to let Davis run the locker room? Will he be willing to step back some on offense? Very important questions

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the biggest thing about him is that he DEMANDS a lot from his teammates.

I don't think its a bad thing since our team seems to put a lot of effort into practice and improving...outside of maybe solo(?).

If Butler comes here, its a necessity that he knows he's the 3rd-fiddle on this team. Be aggressive, but he has to be able to work with the ball movement. The cliché, "the ball has energy" is dumb but its how this offense works best. No more ISO BS.

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If Butler comes here, its a necessity that he knows he's the 3rd-fiddle on this team.

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I do'nt think he could do that.

This is AD's team, and it needs to stay that way.

I love Jimmy Butler, and i'd love to have him for the last 2 minutes of every game, but i kinda agree that he's not the best fit. Of course i'd gladly welcome him.

I don't see Butler as one that would be maximized by playing with our fast pace. He wants to slow things down and play more iso ball. If the T-Wolves were smart, they'd try to implement more of the Triangle given Butler and Wiggins strengths on offense, and playing with a KAT. That's the type of offense that would be best suited for them.

I'd prefer Middleton or Otto for what we want to do, and they are more in line with the age of the team.



We are sitting here arguing over if we should get Butler, Barnes, Middleton or Otto, like there's some chance we can get them.

Our best bet to realistically land Butler (ha) or any star at his level, in my opinion, is to win big the first half of the season (top 4 seed) and Butler asks to play here as the wolves hover in the 8/9 seed range (can't see that)

I'd rather stay put this year and see what we have at point guard before addressing wing concerns. Payton and Jackson are two huge unknowns.