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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein

Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:25 pm to
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I think the 2 firsts thing is more than just kessler's worth.


I'm guessing you didn't process my post OR the difference between (2) top 10 picks vs (2) 20's before this statement.

You think Kesslet is only worth #28 and #30 in a draft? Or you think Kessler is only worth (1) top 10 pick?

Every "2 picks" have different value
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 2:27 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:27 pm to
It's also the kind of firsts being offered. A first next year from New Orleans or Phoenix isn't worth nearly as much as a first from Washington or Portland.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:29 pm to
Ainge is saying:

Kessler's value is (2) good picks.

Pels/ Suns/ contenders can offer (3) shitty picks and take your chance if you want.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:35 pm to
Lol. Kessler is barely worth a 1st.

I'd rather sign Robinson, Biyombo and Reed and just try to piece together a front court than give up 2 picks for Walker Kessler.

Ainge is always a treat to deal with
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:38 pm to
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Lol. Kessler is barely worth a 1st.

I'd rather sign Robinson, Biyombo and Reed and just try to piece together a front court than give up 2 picks for Walker Kessler.

Ainge is always a treat to deal with


All this. There's a reason why Boston starting making runs after he left
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:40 pm to
You make the right deal, never out of desperation.

Piece together a Front Court by committee, or look elsewhere, maybe Detroit or Orlando for a big.

Revisit BI down the road and see if you get a legit C. C is by far the easiest position in the modern game to cover up.

Don't give up 2 damn 1st rounders for Walker Kessler.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:40 pm to
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Lol. Kessler is barely worth a 1st.


Guys I hate to break it to you but OUR 1sts are barely worth a 1st lol...

Y'all are really overvaluing our own future draft picks, while having high expectations for our team.

Ainge is aware those picks will be mid 20's at best. He's also aware that he would be literally giving us a player that lowers the value of those same picks..

That's not including the fact that we added Murray and still have BI.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:40 pm to
Kessler's value is higher this year than it would have been in the past, because his play so greatly exceeds his $2 million salary. And the new CBA makes that fact matter more.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Lol. Kessler is barely worth a 1st.

I'd rather sign Robinson, Biyombo and Reed and just try to piece together a front court than give up 2 picks for Walker Kessler.


You can't say stuff like this and then be upset our only backup plan is a #21 project.

Our future picks hopefully will be #28/ #30 range.

So we have 0 trust in the center we picked at #21 but knowingly wont give up (2) picks that will be worse value than our current pick?

Y'all maths don't be mathing

But i bet if we traded him for pick #31/ #32 (2 2nds) fans would be ecstatic about the value...
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 3:02 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by brmark70816
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

So we have 0 trust in the center we picked at #21 but knowingly wont give up (2) picks that will be worse value than our current pick?

Y'all maths don't be mathing

But i bet if we traded him for pick #31/ #32 (2 2nds) fans would be ecstatic about the value...



There is some truth to this. If we could get him for a 1st, then he probably isn't very good. Great talent is going to cost alot (especially on a rookie contract). We have to be willing to lose the trade and overpay at times..
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 3:28 pm to
For every Naji, Jrue, Jose, Josh Hart there's always an AD, Eric Gordon, Jessica.

frick you Jessica, you bitch
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 3:29 pm to
Naji looks SO excited..

Looks like the CP3 trade pick with Gordon et all.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:01 pm to
Paul Reed to the pistons. hmmm
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 4:02 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:03 pm to
Haven't seen that one yet
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:05 pm to
Pistons claimed Reed

Very interesting because now they are overloaded with big men, and I seen a post earlier today about them being interested in BI now that the Cade extension is complete
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 4:07 pm
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:08 pm to
For sure they have Stewart, Duran, Tobias and now Reed at the 4 and 5. Holland I’m guessing more as a 3 with Thompson. Makes sense and doesn’t really put them so flush they need to move someone unfortunately.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:13 pm to
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I seen a post earlier today about them being interested in BI now that the Cade extension is complete


That one is complete speculation based on Langdon's ties to the Pels, but didn't it come out that Langdon is not an Ingram fan and wanted to trade him last year?

quote:

Ingram and his connection to Detroit revolve around the ties to new Pistons president Trajan Langdon, who came over from New Orleans this offseason. Langdon knows what Ingram is capable of on the court, and the 26-year-old would be another experienced veteran the Pistons could add this offseason, joining the likes of Tobias Harris and Tim Hardaway Jr. The Pistons need scorers next to Cade Cunningham, and they may be willing to sacrifice players like Jalen Duren or Isaiah Stewart for a player of Ingram's caliber.

LINK
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:22 pm to
I have a feeling it's going to end up being Ayton. And I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104996 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 4:31 pm to
Langdon wanting to trade BI could have been “not a fan of him” or “not a fan of his fit on the Pels”.

Detroit needs people who know how to score so maybe he wants him up there.
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