re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein

Pretty sure BI for Beef Stew and Ivey works after the Paul Reed pickup. Not sure if they’d want to give up on Ivey already, or if we’d want Beef Stew as our starter (probably not due to size/injury concerns.

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You can't say stuff like this and then be upset our only backup plan is a #21 project.

Our future picks hopefully will be #28/ #30 range.

So we have 0 trust in the center we picked at #21 but knowingly wont give up (2) picks that will be worse value than our current pick?

Y'all maths don't be mathing

But i bet if we traded him for pick #31/ #32 (2 2nds) fans would be ecstatic about the value...

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What? 28-30? Are you that optimistic about the roster? If Kessler improved us that much, may would give up 3-4 1sts. However, that is not the case. At this point in his career, he is a one-trick pony. He is a tremendous shot blocker. He is a good rebounder and decent defender. He is a deer lost in the headlights on the offensive end. He cannot set screens or shoot FTs or 3s. He is still a bit of a project/marginal starter. Utah did not play him much the latter half of the season and now he is playing in the SL. No way would I give up multiple 1sts for him.

From Brett Siegels most recent article

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The Jazz are another interesting scenario to discuss since they have their whole ordeal with Markkanen to sort through. Should Utah decide to keep Markkanen, as indications right now suggest, the Jazz are going to be on a mission to surround him with win-now talents. Ingram is certainly this type of player, as the Jazz would know what kind of scorer they would be adding on the wing, which has been a weak point for them over the years. The only problem with trading for Ingram is the Jazz would have two players up for massive extensions.

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Two scenarios with Utah I would like:

BI for Kessler and Collins, use the cap savings to sign Tyus Jones to MLE, sign reeves to main roster

Or

BI for Kessler and Sexton, use the MLE to sign GTJ, BAE to sign Precious Achiuwa, sign Reeves to two way

Murray/Tyus/Jose
Herb/CJ/Ryan
Trey/Hawk/Reeves
Zion/Collins/JRE
Kessler/Theis/Missi

Or

Murray/Sexton/Jose
Herb/CJ/Hawk
Trey/GTJ/Ryan
Zion/Precious/JRE
Kessler/Theis/Missi

Either one would also likely be a roster we can keep together for more than a year

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Not a fan of Collins' player option next season. Could put us in a salary cap jam.

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It really wouldn’t. If we kept him and Trey along with everyone we have on roster next season we would have about 13-14 million under the first apron to fill out 5 roster spots. This is assuming Trey at a 31 million cap hit next season, so that number could be way more depending on what Trey’s extension looks like.

Also having that salary combined with CJ you have 56 million in expiring contracts which allows you to go superstar hunting say if someone unexpectedly comes available like Booker

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Cunningham is a 3.

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I feel like you just say random shite at times just to get a reaction out of people, aka troll

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feel like you just say random shite at times just to get a reaction out of people, aka troll

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Ivey is the PG or small guard. Then there are the two wings, Cunningham and Thompson. They just added Hardaway JR and drafted Holland. Who's job is Ingram taking? Are you sitting Cunningham or Thompson?

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I really wonder if we wouldn't just start small. No center. Murray CJ Herb Zion BI

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I like this idea too, but would start

Murray
CJ
Herb
Zion
Trey

With BI the first off the bench and Trey in the starting lineup.

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The Jazz are another interesting scenario to discuss since they have their whole ordeal with Markkanen to sort through. Should Utah decide to keep Markkanen, as indications right now suggest, the Jazz are going to be on a mission to surround him with win-now talents. Ingram is certainly this type of player, as the Jazz would know what kind of scorer they would be adding on the wing, which has been a weak point for them over the years. The only problem with trading for Ingram is the Jazz would have two players up for massive extensions.

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My god. Imagine being a fan of a team that extended Ingram and Markkanen to long term high dollar contracts.

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90s? What teams are actually structured the way you describe? Can you name 5 that have eschewed all conventional roles/positions?

Should be pretty simple, since it's how things are done now, right?

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Nah, you have had it explained to you plenty of times, and yet you persist in thinking that each player in the NBA has a specific position that he plays. You aren't interested in learning anything, so no one should waste their time trying to explain to you how the modern NBA is about skills and responsibilities much more than positions.