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re: Do people seriously believe Trey wont get a MAX contract?
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:06 am to TigerinATL
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:06 am to TigerinATL
Maybe we’ll leak out to everyone that listens that we’ll match any offer so teams are just tying up space and wasting their time. Then we swoop in and sign him for a discount whenever no offers come in.
I know that’s technically against league rules but the Lakers showed you can get away with it last year when Reaves was restricted
I know that’s technically against league rules but the Lakers showed you can get away with it last year when Reaves was restricted
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:25 am to TigerinATL
Just so everyone is clear, a max salary for Trey would have him paid 25% of the salary cap in 2026, which would likely be around $41M for his first year.
We are talking about a 5/$240M max contract for that draft class.
He can sign that extension this offseason, although he is no where near playing like a 5/$240M player.
He can wait another year to prove himself and earn more, but that's risky if he were to get hurt.
5/$150M would be perfectly acceptable for a player like Trey, assuming he continues to get better this year and finishes strong, and would be well under a max contract.
That type of contract would be just slightly higher percentage wise compared to Cam Johnsons, who only got 4 years on his extension, who actually has a contract that pays him more in year 1 than the other 3 years.
We are talking about a 5/$240M max contract for that draft class.
He can sign that extension this offseason, although he is no where near playing like a 5/$240M player.
He can wait another year to prove himself and earn more, but that's risky if he were to get hurt.
5/$150M would be perfectly acceptable for a player like Trey, assuming he continues to get better this year and finishes strong, and would be well under a max contract.
That type of contract would be just slightly higher percentage wise compared to Cam Johnsons, who only got 4 years on his extension, who actually has a contract that pays him more in year 1 than the other 3 years.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 8:58 am to TeddyPadillac
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Just so everyone is clear, a max salary for Trey would have him paid 25% of the salary cap in 2026, which would likely be around $41M for his first year.
We are talking about a 5/$240M max contract for that draft class.
He can sign that extension this offseason, although he is no where near playing like a 5/$240M player.
He can wait another year to prove himself and earn more, but that's risky if he were to get hurt.
5/$150M would be perfectly acceptable for a player like Trey, assuming he continues to get better this year and finishes strong, and would be well under a max contract.
That type of contract would be just slightly higher percentage wise compared to Cam Johnsons, who only got 4 years on his extension, who actually has a contract that pays him more in year 1 than the other 3 years.
In conclusion, my knowledge of CBA when it comes to rookie extensions was completely wrong and I feel slightly smarter learning
Posted on 1/23/24 at 12:29 pm to 50_Tiger
I’d offer him 5 years $125 million. That’s a fair offer for both sides IMO. It would all but end our chances of bringing Jonas back next year though, although some on here would like to see him gone i can’t understand why based on his production and availability versus what he makes is a great deal for the Pels.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 12:45 pm to LSUPilot07
I think he'll get an average of 26-27. That's what the recent extensions for young promising player have been going for.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:58 pm to supe12sta12z
I dont. But if we dont make a serious run the next 2 years, BI could be gone with a crazy offer from another team or CJ which opens it up for Trey to get paid.
you can't throw around max money for a guy with below avg Defense and spot up shooter.
you can't throw around max money for a guy with below avg Defense and spot up shooter.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:30 am to supe12sta12z
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I think he'll get an average of 26-27. That's what the recent extensions for young promising player have been going for.
Non-max rookies who extended off 1st round salaries (excludes guys like Reaves and Herb who are bargains due to their initial contract)
Jaden McDaniels got 5/131 (up to 136)
Devin Vassel got 5/135 (up to 146)
I think those are fair comps for Trey. Players who are currently good with obvious upside to become really good or better.
Adjust for another year of the cap rising and 5/150 feels right.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:39 am to DallasTiger45
I don't see him getting 30 a year. Just don't. Both guys you listed averages out at 26-27. 28 if he goes nuclear after the post all-star break but his production has to increase for it to be possible.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:11 am to supe12sta12z
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I don't see him getting 30 a year. Just don't. Both guys you listed averages out at 26-27. 28 if he goes nuclear after the post all-star break but his production has to increase for it to be possible.
You’re not wrong. His production this year hasn’t warranted the contract but Trey is universally liked by nba teams. The last thing you want to do is play a game of chicken with Trey and his agent. Teams desperately want guys like Trey and at the end if its a couple mill a year here or there- you pay it and resign him.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:17 am to 50_Tiger
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Do people seriously believe Trey wont get a MAX contract?
Current Trey does not deserve a max. Could he turn into a max player, sure, I hope he does. But no, right now he would not deserve a max and we'd be stupid if we paid him that. Trey might be my favorite player on this team, but right now he's not a max player.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:47 am to iwyLSUiwy
I actually think that Trey's value is lower this season than last year. With CJ shooting lights out, and with Herb, Naji, Jose, shooting much better (even Larry!) from 3, and especially with Hawk on the team, we aren't as dependent on Trey for 3-pt shooting.
I just can't imagine Trey getting more than $25 per, but I don't really feel like arguing about it.
I just can't imagine Trey getting more than $25 per, but I don't really feel like arguing about it.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:33 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Current Trey does not deserve a max. Could he turn into a max player, sure, I hope he does. But no, right now he would not deserve a max and we'd be stupid if we paid him that. Trey might be my favorite player on this team, but right now he's not a max player.
I like Murphy's potential, but he has just not been very good this season. To talk about paying him a max contract is absurd. He is shooting 43% from the field, 37% from three. Even at his best, he is a 3-point specialist who doesn't add much in the way of rebounds or assists.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:49 pm to MetryMauler
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like Murphy's potential, but he has just not been very good this season. To talk about paying him a max contract is absurd
I agree with most of this. But his potential is why giving him a max isn’t absurd. The potential is not the fact that he “can” do it it’s the idea that he can do it consistently. Everyone can see the skills/ abilities he has. Any team that thinks he can eventually become consistent would give him 25-30 mil. Especially the teams that can play him 40 min and give him the green light.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:13 pm to MetryMauler
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I like Murphy's potential, but he has just not been very good this season. To talk about paying him a max contract is absurd. He is shooting 43% from the field, 37% from three. Even at his best, he is a 3-point specialist who doesn't add much in the way of rebounds or assists.
Rookie extensions are never about what you are its about what you could be.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:02 pm to 50_Tiger
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Do people seriously believe Trey wont get a MAX contract?
You have to be able to create your own shot to warrant anything close to a max
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:16 pm to Broski
3-point specialist now shooting under 37%, hope Trey can get hot but getting concerned. He needs to stop shooting 30 footers.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:22 pm to Broski
I know that he will turn it around, but right now he looks like a player closer to being sent down to the G League than one about to get a max contract.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:26 pm to SaintTigerPel
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I know that he will turn it around
He'll definitely get back on track in terms of knocking down his threes, but he is still so raw in every other aspect of his game. It's year 3 for him and we're not really seeing him make much of a jump in his ball handling and defense.
If all he amounts to is just a three-point sniper with some length, that is perfectly fine, but if the idea for some is to be an eventual BI replacement i.e. a max player, he needs to show a lot more than he has thus far.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:58 pm to Broski
We’d be nuts to give him a max contract. He is the 6th or 7th best guy on this team right now.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:14 pm to SaintTigerPel
I never thought I would be surprised when Trey makes a 3 but where at that point. And can we please stop acting like Trey has some secret off the dribble game dude ceiling is a high level role player and his extension needs to be in that range.
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