re: 2021 NBA Trade thread BREAKING: Bagley to Pistons in 4 team deal

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there is still a slight chance that they lose out of the play-in and get into the top ten in the lottery this year.

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bigger than slight.
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lebron misses any games from now to playoffs lakers will lose those games 9 out of 10. davis will be re examined soon. not ready.

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Westbrook, THT, and Nunn….for Wall and Gordon

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Dumping their only two promising young players and doubling down on the oldest roster. That would have to rank pretty high in the modern era for oldest average player per minutes played.

Nate Duncan had a great explanation on a recent Hollinger/Duncan podcast explaining how Klutch structured THT’s contract in such a way that he has very little value to other teams, especially a rebuilding team like Houston. It’s Klutch’s involvement and LeGM that makes me want to continue to short sell the Laker’s future

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And if that were to happen, I would be more worried about Westbrook carrying them to the playoffs than Wall. Westbrook has shown he can drag a team to the playoffs, Wall has never shown that.

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Not this westbrook.

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Shams Charania @ShamsCharania 28m

76ers prefer to wait to pursue James Harden or another superstar in offseason and want to save Ben Simmons for that potential deal over current market, per sources with knowledge and rival teams.

Details and Simmons latest with @sam_amick at @TheAthletic: LINK

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Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA 22m

"The 76ers have asked the Kings for guard Tyrese Haliburton and multiple first-round picks, and asked for a package around John Collins and multiple first-round picks from the Hawks along with Atlanta taking on Tobias Harris, multiple sources tell The Athletic."

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What does that say about Fox's value that the 76ers asked for Haliburton? It could be fit, but I do have to think this isn't positive for Fox's trade value from Sacramento's point of view.

Harden was kind of an outlier in terms of major trade deadline moves last year.

And Griff has tended so far to wheel and deal in the offseason.

Though it would be kind of annoying if we got that exception and stuff only to not use it.

But I think the idea we make a trade for a Fox, Robinson, or Powell tier player that I have heard fans hope for, is remote, and very unlikely.

We'll probably make a deal for PG depth. Maybe add a bench shooter.

We're gonna struggle to beat out other teams for actual impact players, though, because even our car salesman GM won't be able to convince anyone NAW and Jaxson are worth anything.

Deals that actually get done don't leak out weeks before the deadline, anyway. So us not being in the news isn't a big deal.

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76ers prefer to wait to pursue James Harden or another superstar in offseason and want to save Ben Simmons for that potential deal over current market, per sources with knowledge and rival teams.

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I've heard this multiple times now but why would the Nets have any interest in this? If the Nets say that Harden is open for trade, there would be so many better offers out there.

I actually like Ben Simmons. But I think people remember what he looked like the last time he was on the court, and it was trash. Not sure why a team would consider Simmons to be a big part of a trade for a former MVP.

If they are waiting for the offseason, they are going to piss Embid off. You have to think he wants help now. Not just have him bust his arse with no real potential to get to the finals. He is elevating that right now higher than they should be and another key piece could make them finals contenders. I dont think I risk pissing him off and him asking for a trade just so I can shoot for some pipe dream trade in the offseason.

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but there was a blurb in NBA circles a few days ago out of nowhere that Harden would be open to relocation.

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More tweets from today, stating that Harden and his camp have maintained a close relationship with Morey, and a Sixers co-owner is close with Harden and his camp.


Again, doesn't mean the Nets will trade him but if he asks out, he could be moved, especially if he threatens to pull shenanigans like he did in HOU.

Windhorst talked about Dejounte Murray on his podcast last week. He said some teams are speculating that he'll be available this summer because the Spurs have 2 different strata of young guys. Basically they'd trade Murray to focus on building around guy like Primo and Keldon Johnson.

I'm not sure that passes the sniff test as a reason to do this for the Spurs. But I can believe they like their younger young guys enough that if they could land one of the bigs at the top of the draft to go with them, they'd do it. But NAW/Hayes and a bunch of picks aren't getting it done. The Pels (or Lakers) would need to win a top 4 pick to get that conversation started.

I don't see them trading Murray who is still only 25 on a great contract. If they were going to create a spot by trading someone in that backcourt, it would likely be Derrick White.