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re: Guitarists of the OT

Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:19 am to
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:19 am to
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DO NOT venture over to the music board. You would get better advice on the Rant or soccer board about a guitar than there.



Pussy
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29131 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:50 am to
Seeing as this is the OT, most folks will buy a Gibson citation for $25k and let it gather dust.
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7143 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:21 am to
Beverly Hills by Wheezer is a great starter song. It’s only like 4 power chords. You can ever just use two fingers if you need to.

Actually playing a song will boost your confidence while you’re going through the learning process.

Santa Monica by everclear is a good one too.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:36 am to
Get a used US strat or tele off reverb or eBay. Have it setup properly. Learn chords and power chords so you can learn a few songs. Then start focusing on theory/scales.

FYI - you’re kids still won’t think you’re cool.

Edit - start off with electric. Easier to play than an acoustic, although I’d probably string it with 10’s vs 9’s as it will stay in tune better with a little heavier gauge string.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 2:39 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25737 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:18 am to
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Seeing as this is the OT, most folks will buy a Gibson citation for $25k and let it gather dust.


Being the OT they would have to have an electric too, probably an early '54 Strat with a serialized trem cover.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89584 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 5:28 am to
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Ask on the music board


Agreed

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I am a hack so take this for what it is a hacks opinion


#MeToo

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I would suggest a Yamaha Pacifica if you want to go electric.


Spot on.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89584 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 5:29 am to
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Being the OT they would have to have an electric too, probably an early '54 Strat with a serialized trem cover.



Or a '58 LP
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12768 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 5:51 am to
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Any advice is appreciated.


Learning a new hobby is fine, but don’t be the guy that brings it to all the family gatherings or friend events and is annoying about it.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13969 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 5:54 am to
You won’t get far with $37 and a Jap guitar baw.
Posted by Friedbrie
Abita Springs
Member since Jun 2018
1519 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 5:59 am to
My first guitar that I learned to play on was a Martin Sigma. Then I purchased an Ibanez acoustic, which was ok for a little while. About 10 years ago I got a Martin D-35. That guitar is unbelievable. I've always heard Yamaha makes a great beginner acoustic but I've personally never played one.

I've been playing a Takimine at the local music store that sells for around $700, and it sounds and plays great.

Maybe try checking out some local guitar shops and see what they have. If you get something that's dirt cheap and hard to play it will make it harder to learn and less enjoyable to play.

"The Guitar Handbook" is an excellent book and has a great chord dictionary. It's just an enjoyable book to read too. It covers the history of the guitar and different manufacturers. Just a great book. Start by learning chords, especially G,C,D,E, and A. You would not believe how many popular songs use G,C,D.

Good luck on your journey!

This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 6:02 am
Posted by 40 Rouge
Red Stick
Member since Feb 2009
2696 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:12 am to
Like other have said, learn G D Em and C chords. You’ll be able to play hundreds of songs with those, especially when you use a capo to change keys.

I’ll throw in another guitar suggestion: Ovation Celebrity series. Affordable new, comfortable shape for lots of practice time, and made in a way that you can be a little rough with it.
Posted by metallica81788
NO
Member since Sep 2008
8538 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:16 am to
Don't start on an acoustic just because people here say to

You sound like you want electric - get an electric
Guitar quality is pretty amazing these days, you can find a solid one for $400-500

Just figure out what you want to do and you'll have a hobby for life. You can get serviceable quickly with Youtube these days.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9752 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:20 am to
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Get a used tele off reverb or eBay.



A Tele? For a beginner?

Posted by Tadey
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
542 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:23 am to
I have been learning a bit over the last two years. The nicer guitars are certainly easier to play, but that doesn't mean you need to spend $400+ for a "nice" guitar.

I played just enough on my buddies guitar that I decided to buy one myself. I didn't go cheap per say, but i also didn't want to drop a bunch of money on one either. I went on Facebook marketplace and ended up buying a Takamine guitar that normally retails for $650 for $350. It was barely used and in basically brand new condition.

I would recommend looking for guitars on Facebook marketplace for however much you want to spend, and just google them. You will be able to see what they retail for to know if its a good deal, and you can look at reviews to see if they are any good.

My two cents.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5336 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:24 am to
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Don't start on an acoustic just because people here say to

You sound like you want electric - get an electric
Guitar quality is pretty amazing these days, you can find a solid one for $400-500

Just figure out what you want to do and you'll have a hobby for life. You can get serviceable quickly with Youtube these days.


I'm on board with this guy. An electric is easier to play and break in the callouses on your fingers. Whenever you get bored with the sound, you can always add a pedal to change the sound up.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20030 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:35 am to
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I'm not interested or motivated to becoming the next Eric Clapton, just something to make a hobby out of it.


I’ve been playing for probably 20 years now, and at least the first 5 I kind of thought like this. But I sucked. And guitar is not fun if you suck. I stuck with it, eventually I was decent but would never want to play in front of people. I was into it enough that I needed to be better and have something to show for it for the amount of time I put into it. I had a few decent guitars but never had bought one myself.

Probably 12-13 years ago, my parents got me an American telecaster for Christmas, I wasn’t expecting it and was kind of embarrassed because of my skill level not matching the guitar so it’s stayed in its case. Once I started playing it though, my playing took off. The quality of the instrument made me take it more seriously, if that makes sense. I was proud of my guitar and wanted to be proud of my playing.

Long story short, investing in a quality instrument will help remove an artificial limitation put on yourself. You want to be good enough to play a few songs, and that takes time, lots of time in your hands. Further, a decent quality guitar holds its value pretty well, a $175 guitar won’t be worth anything after you buy it. Even a $500 squire (fenders value brand) holds value pretty well. The quality from the most budget to even the very next step up makes a big difference in quality.

If you definitely just want to go the budget route, Id probably go used. Another great budget guitar is anything built by Yamaha. Gretsch (owned by fender now) has some pretty cheap guitars too and not bad.

In terms of lessons, since I started playing, YouTube has come a really long way for lessons of all skill levels. I took 2-3 lessons when I first started, but mostly learned just playing by ear and playing along with records. Instructors are so hit or miss, I’d learn the very basics on your own (google search cowboy chords), then maybe an instructor to guide you into getting better.

Good luck
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2924 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:37 am to
I used to recommend starting with an acoustic. They are just more versatile, or at least were, until headphone amps came along. Acoustic's can encourage a bad habit that can be difficult to overcome: a tight grip. Otherwise, I still think an acoustic is a good choice. But whether acoustic or electric, you need to get a guitar that you can get professionally set up at your local music store. This is really important.

As to budget and what guitar to buy, don't go to pawn shops or consider a used guitar unless you get it checked out at a music store first. You just won't know what to look out for unless you are prepared to educate yourself on how to find those problems.

I thnk a $500 budget is about what you should start with for an acoustic. Getting a good instrument is worth it if only for the retained resale value. For an underappreciated brand, look at Yamaha. You can get a new, solid top acoustic in a concert or dreadnought body for under $400 leaving some money for a stand, picks, strap and case.

If you want an electric, you will need an amp along with the usual accessories. A strat or tele are good choices as they can be easily upgraded and customized. They aren't the only guitars that fit this criteria, but either is a good start.

Fianlly, go to a music store and talk to the staff, they can really help with everything you need and that usually includes lessons. Sure, you can watch YouTube and teach yourself, but a few lessons to start will speed up your learning process considerably.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20030 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:44 am to
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A Tele? For a beginner?


Why not? It’s basically the standard electric guitar.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1667 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:05 am to
Cheap guitars can be miserable. Bought my 8 y/o son a Squier Mini Strat to learn on. That thing is the biggest piece of shite. Takes forever to get in tune, then loses it in 2 minutes. The frets are so bad that without perfect finger pressure, you are bending the notes out of tune anyway on the rare occasion that you do have everything set up right.

Do you need to spend a ton, no. I have an Ibanez acoustic I got on sale years ago for $200. It's not something I'd go around showing off. But it stays in tune very well and is comfortable to play. It's the perfect couch guitar.

My advice is find a good local guitar store and talk with someone. Guitar Center can be horrible, especially when trying to get real advice. Also find the guitars aren't set up well. Whereas the more local shop I have purchased from was set up so well, I've brought guitars in and just paid them the $50 bucks to set the action, intonation, etc..
Posted by BLP
In the woods
Member since Jul 2022
127 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:02 am to
YouTube is great if you're a visual learner. There's a ton of beginner lessons on there. Go to your local Mom/Pop instrument store and try out a bunch until you find one that feels comfortable and right in your hands. Have fun on your journey!
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