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re: Guitarists of the OT

Posted on 8/26/23 at 2:55 am to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28050 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 2:55 am to
OP is just El Gaucho
He damn near had to hit me over the head with his stinky Croc to make me get it.
He played a long troll.
This post was edited on 8/26/23 at 3:07 am
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3947 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:31 am to
People usually start with a cheap acoustic. Usually Yamaha. I think it’s a bad idea because they amount of pressure you have to use to fret it makes your fingers sore and it’s hard to practice consistently.

I recommend starting with a low priced electric (fender squire series or Ibanez) with an older fender mustang amp or a 90s silvertone amp (super cheap on reverb, but very decent. The strings and play are much lighter and easier and the hands so you can focus on learning.

If you prefer an acoustic guitar I’d get a classical guitar. The nylon strings are very light.

Good luck and have fun!

And I’d buy used. You can get nice discounts.
This post was edited on 8/27/23 at 4:32 am
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
710 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 6:38 am to
Get a 58 Les Paul
Posted by doublecutter
Hear & Their
Member since Oct 2003
6592 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:30 am to
quote:

People usually start with a cheap acoustic. Usually Yamaha. I think it’s a bad idea because they amount of pressure you have to use to fret it makes your fingers sore and it’s hard to practice consistently.


I'm in a fantasy football league and we had our in person draft yesterday. There's a guy in the league that I don't know that well who is a professional guitar player, he plays in a pretty well known NOLA cover band. I asked him about the Fender FA 125 that I bought. He said that there are many, many better guitars, but also many worse guitars. But at the price I bought it for, it's a pretty good deal that affords me the opportunity to get started and upgrading in the future. I asked him about the playability of the guitar and he told me to call him and go his house and he would tweak the guitar to improve the playability, he mentioned most probably changing the strings.

An interesting thing he said was: an accomplished player could make a terrible guitar sound decent, and an unaccomplished player could made a $5k guitar sound terrible.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
11025 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 11:47 am to
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An interesting thing he said was: an accomplished player could make a terrible guitar sound decent, and an unaccomplished player could made a $5k guitar sound terrible.


This has some truth to it.
Posted by Stan Switek
Member since Apr 2017
367 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 5:02 pm to
Its probably a lot better guitar than what I started out with 35 years ago. Mine didn't even have the dot markers on the right frets.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4941 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 1:26 pm to
Get a G and L Tribute ASAT classic; this is a Telecaster. The L in G and L is Leo as in Leo Fender. I am a hobby guitarist. Do not get something cheap; you will regret it. The G and L goes for about $ 550, but you can get them used cheaper than that. It has been my experience that the amplifier is more important. Again, I would say get a good quality used amp.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:05 am to
quote:

An interesting thing he said was: an accomplished player could make a terrible guitar sound decent, and an unaccomplished player could made a $5k guitar sound terrible.


absolutely the truth.

number one tip is to learn how to set up your guitar or bring it in to a luthier and have it done. a proper set up will make it light-years easier to play, and can make a <$500 sound just about perfect. nothing will frustrate you more than your action (string height/gap between strings and fretboard) being too high or having an improperly adjusted intonation.

I highly recommend avoiding guitar center unless you're one of the lucky ones who lives near one with a quality luthier. if you want to purchase from a big box store, Sweetwater is by far the best. their engineers will work with you to set it up exactly the way you want it. my last guitar from them came to me with the nut replacement, string gauges, and specific tuning I wanted for it, and it was set up perfectly.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89584 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:13 am to
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absolutely the truth.


Willie Nelson's "Trigger" is a classical guitar with no pickguard that he's been playing with a pick and gut strings (at least sometimes) over 50 years and typically showers the crowd with shards of wood from it.

quote:

an unaccomplished player could made a $5k guitar sound terrible.


I don't know about all that, but I can make $1500 to $2000 guitars sound downright awful.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Willie Nelson's "Trigger" is a classical guitar with no pickguard that he's been playing with a pick and gut strings (at least sometimes) over 50 years and typically showers the crowd with shards of wood from it.



true, but tbf, it's a martin n-20, only nylon martin ever made, and it wasn't cheap

quote:

[in 1968] Nelson bought the modified Martin N-20 unseen, for $750 (equivalent to $6,000 in 2022).


he's also had a luthier maintain/repair it at least once a year since 1977
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89584 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:20 am to
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it's a martin n-20, only nylon martin ever made


That rare 15-minute run of them on Friday morning.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25343 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 6:43 pm to
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If I had it to do again, I would get a nylon string guitar.
I second that.

My first guitar was a Alverez Classical* guitar that I bought from a girl in a study group I met at college . It was a fine guitar but she never played it. The nylon strings didn't were out my fingertips at first.

Another person in the study group was a pretty good player showed me how the play an extremely difficult song for a new player. (picking Blackbird by the Beatles) He was messing with me but said it you can learn to play this everything else will be easy. I still cant play it correctly, but he was right as it forced me to use all 5 fingers on both hands. Chords were easy after that.

*my brother sold it when I went out of town for a weekend!!!

My second guitar was like this and I still have it 43 years later!

This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 6:53 pm
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