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re: Watching the Harry Potter movies for the first time

Posted on 2/14/18 at 6:49 am to
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 6:49 am to
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2 Sirius Black dies and i feel zero connection to that and although Harry is devastated, the movies don't tell you much at all about him and why it should be heartbreaking.


I wish Gary Oldman would have had another role that would have resulted in more screentime throughout the series.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 6:50 am to
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I realize people LOVE this series and good for them, this however is just my take on HP, but I feel like I needed the books as an addendum whereas you could watch LOTR and never open the books and it would be all you could ever need.


I don’t know that it’s fair to compare the two really. The whole point of LOTR was to make as faithful an adaptation as possible. And I believe Peter Jackson had to work very hard to get a PG-13 rating.

The HP series was always intended to be accessible for kids. And the first three were PG. Now to the posters pointing out how screwed up HBP is in comparison, it’s the only one of the last 4 books to not have a PG-13 rating.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 7:45 am to
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People like shite on the first two and those are probably the best adapted from the books.


Those first two, even the first three, were easier adaptations to make. You go from barely three hundred pages for the first two, then a little over 400 for the third book, to over 600 for all the rest. A lot is going to get chopped out of a 600+ page book to make a two hour movie.
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 7:58 am to
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Those first two, even the first three, were easier adaptations to make. You go from barely three hundred pages for the first two, then a little over 400 for the third book, to over 600 for all the rest. A lot is going to get chopped out of a 600+ page book to make a two hour movie.


I'd still kinda like to have seen where Columbus would of took the rest of the movies instead of him going direct the Percy Jackson crap.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 7:59 am to
The first three movies are great. I don't care for the subsequent movies as much.
Posted by GurleyGirl
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:03 am to
You should have read the books before watching the movies. This should be a standard operating procedure for movies based on books.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:08 am to
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The first three movies are great. I don't care for the subsequent movies as much.


As Sasquatch said before, the page count/run time ratio drops drastically for the last 4 books. It goes from 300 pages/2.5 hrs to 600+ pages/2.5 hrs.

I also feel like they tried to age the series with the viewers, while still keeping it accessible to children which resulted in softer PG-13 ratings than they probably needed. Gof-DH deals with some pretty dark subject matter. HBP gets really dark, but they made that one PG.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:14 am to
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As Sasquatch said before, the page count/run time ratio drops drastically for the last 4 books. It goes from 300 pages/2.5 hrs to 600+ pages/2.5 hrs.


Agree. I felt like they could have easily split some books into two movies and the Deathly Hallows into 3 possibly 4.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:15 am to
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You should have read the books before watching the movies. This should be a standard operating procedure for movies based on books.



You should quit reading books that have movies made after them. You would enjoy the movie more.
You read the book and already have an idea of what you expect the world and characters to be like. Your ideas will be different from others. Then you go watch the movie and it doesn't fit your expectations and then you bitch about why the movie wasn't that good b/c it didn't fit exactly how you saw things from the book.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:21 am to
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Couple hundred million other people say otherwise.


I don't have a dog in this fight but this is a worthless rebuttal. Millions of people like gangam style and justin bieber but that doesn't mean they're any good.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:37 am to
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I don't have a dog in this fight but this is a worthless rebuttal. Millions of people like gangam style and justin bieber but that doesn't mean they're any good.



If they weren't any good, the millions of people that like them, wouldn't like them. It's a pretty simple concept. Not everyone has to like Justin Bieber for him to be wildly successful. He can have millions of people hate him and not give him a dime, yet he still has millions upon millions that love him, and pay him very handsomely. Nothing is universally liked. When something is liked by a very large portion of society, it's doing something right, and they could give two shits about the other portion that doesn't like them.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 8:38 am
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:28 am to
Character development or bad acting? Because none of the kids they casted were really worth a damn or really captured the essance of the book characters.

And yes, they pooped all over the Harry/Sirius relationship. Oldman did a great job, but again, Radcliffe and his horribly bland rednition of Harry did nothing to cememnt any kind of bond. Sirius and James were best friends, so Sirius was the closest thing Harry had to having a father, but Sirius saw so much of James in Harry and sometimes was more of a best friend as opposed to a parental figure to Harry. The isolation and desperation of Sirius being stuck in Grimwald place for all of OotP bubbled up so well in the book, making the battle at the ministry so effective and heartbreaking.

And again, Dobby was very much absent in the movies.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:30 am to
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Those first two, even the first three, were easier adaptations to make. You go from barely three hundred pages for the first two, then a little over 400 for the third book, to over 600 for all the rest. A lot is going to get chopped out of a 600+ page book to make a two hour movie.



True, but it's strange and frustrating that Chamber, one of the shorter books, was at one point the longest movie in the series, and Order, the longest book, was the shortest film. They butchered Order so much.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:35 am to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 4:46 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:16 am to
The books are an easy read, and will give you a lot more character development.

The movies still hold up and are fun to watch.

Prisoner of Azakaban just seemed out of place in the movies. The Order of the Phoenix should have been combined with another movie and the two part Deathly Hallows movies was just a money grab.
Posted by OMLSharksDownVoter
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:54 am to
No one cares
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:04 am to
The should have made an extended cut like LotR.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:09 am to
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Severus Snape


His story arch was one of the most heartbreaking things I have ever experienced.
Posted by Das Jackal
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:22 pm to
I've never seen any of them myself, so I decided to check them out while they were all on HBO. I watched the first one and thought it was pretty decent, definitely didn't hate it. That said, it didn't make me fired up enough to watch any more of them. I thought about it, but it felt like I was making myself watch it rather than really wanting to.
Posted by AbitaFan08
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:32 pm to
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Dobby has just died and while i knew it was coming from the spoilers over the years, he has about 10 minutes total screen time and I didn't find it sad at all


Pretty sure this is one of the tests to determine if one is a sociopath.
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