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re: Waco - the FBI should be razed to the ground

Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:40 pm to
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That is the level of evil you are trying to justify and defend. Way to pick a side.

Put a turban on the Branch Davidians and all these supporting them will quickly change their stance.

Fanatic religious cult leader with illegal weapons preparing to fight the "Armies of Babylon" and to him Babylon = the USA and anyone who didn't believe in his teachings

False prophets such as himself have to create their own Armageddon in order to make their teachings appear real to their followers
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 7:49 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60685 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:23 pm to
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The mini series is laughably bad and inaccurate in every direction

It was basically a propaganda piece for the BDs. i don't agree with how the government handled it but the adults deserved to burn to death. frick every single one of them.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:30 pm to
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Put a turban on the Branch Davidians and all these supporting them will quickly change their stance.
so true
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:35 pm to
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That is the level of evil you are trying to justify and defend. Way to pick a side.


You are a fricking moron, im not "picking" a side. I have acknowledged that DK was likely a lunatic and anyone following a "im the messiah let me bang your wives" prophet is pretty fricking stupid. NONE of that justifies the execution of women and children.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:37 pm to
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Fanatic religious cult leader with illegal weapons preparing to fight the "Armies of Babylon" and to him Babylon = the USA and anyone who didn't believe in his teachings


Where were the illegal weapons? Hiding with Saddam Hussein's WMD, i guess
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16741 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:24 pm to
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Put a turban on the Branch Davidians and all these supporting them will quickly change their stance.


Holding the government accountable is not supporting the BDs.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 12:33 am to
My wife and daughter just watched it, I saw it a while back in 2018. My wife was hopping mad about it, when I explained how much of the real story I remembered and she did some reading and she relaxed. The whole situation was awful enough, the Hollywood version was terribly one sided and ludicrous

They actually blew a golden opportunity to show how bad the FBI and ATF really screwed up
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 12:57 am to
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Put a turban on the Branch Davidians and all these supporting them will quickly change their stance.


Put a polygamous teetotaler on the Branch Davidians and they'd have a respected University and a football team today and own an entire State.

If the Mormons tried to create today, they'd have been burned to the ground.

Brigham Young would've been burned at the stake by Janet Reno. But Mormons, muh, okay now...Steve Young, great QB.

It's funny how time changes people's opinions; but the Branch Davidians are some crazy people who need to be killed.

The Mormons were seen as crazy people who needed to be killed, that's why they fled West...and then killed people out there because of outlanders going through their supposed land.

Federal government only went after the Mormons for a brief period because they murdered a bunch of settlers heading to California that just happened to pass by their supposed land.

Killed over 100 people from Arkansas in the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Women and children.

But hey, University and football now.

Point being, there have been FAR worse cults in American history that did horrific things and they weren't burned to the ground for simply practicing their faith.

This was an era with Reno and still to this day of Federal control and snuffing out religious freedom.

There are cults who did far worse in American history and this country let them exist. That was before the Nanny state.

Shite if they had survived, maybe the Branch Davidians would be playing football right now at some D1 college they started.
This post was edited on 4/26/20 at 1:02 am
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 1:13 am to
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Holding the government accountable is not supporting the BDs.


This
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24435 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 3:27 am to
it probably hurt them just a little bit more to be crushed by a tank by an overzealous abc agency
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:09 am to
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waged war on them for no fricking reason


Yeah we should let all grown men sleep with and marry the children in their cult.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:17 am to
So you probably shouldnt be using a hilariously one sided and ludicrously inaccurate depiction of said screw up
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:27 am to
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Sure it was wrong what he did with statutory rape, but this was not grounds for going in there


Wtf?

Some of yall should have taken the childrens' place in that fire.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28287 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:28 am to
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Yeah we should let all grown men sleep with and marry the children in their cult


But that wasn't the reason for the assult by the feds and had nothing to do with warrent being served.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28287 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:48 am to
Sure,this was tilted towards the BD's but there's been a couple of other documentaries made including rules of engagement and Frontline's Waco:The Inside Story

Both had some damning evidence against the DOJ's official version

quote:

The most damning evidence against the FBI, which took over the case from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, is found on heat-sensitive infrared videos shot by the FBI from an aircraft flying over the compound. In the film, technological experts testify that strange flashes on the videos almost certainly came from automatic gunfire directed at the compound from government tanks. This contradicts the FBI's insistence that during the entire 51-day siege, federal forces never fired a shot.

The visual evidence also suggests that a tank ran over the body of one or more sect members and that gunfire from federal troops ignited (perhaps deliberately) the highly flammable tear gas that had been pumped into the building.




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Through an extensive examination of the public and private record, the investigation presents evidence to suggest U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno’s orders were based on incomplete and inaccurate information from subordinates and that the tragedy had its roots, at least in part, in the power struggles between government agencies, including the FBI and the Department of Justice. An exhaustive collection of video and audio material takes viewers into the standoff between the Branch Davidians and government negotiators and reveals critical blunders and episodes of miscommunication at nearly every state of the siege


Are you saying Frontline has some raging right wing political
aganda?
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16741 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:27 pm to
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Wtf?

Some of yall should have taken the childrens' place in that fire.


The government did not go after him for this, this had nothing to do with the entire seige and assault. Why is that so hard to understand? DCS investigated him several times without any success. A lot of the facts and testimony that could of allowed the state to go after him for this came out after the seige. It was never a justification for the assault or seige.

The government did all this because of bad tips from disgruntled former members about guns and a UPS driver finding legal inert grenades.
This post was edited on 4/26/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 11:11 pm to
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waged war on them for no fricking reason

Yeah we should let all grown men sleep with and marry the children in their cult.


Or better yet we should burn every child alive that has ever been the victim of pedophilia
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16741 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 7:49 am to
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Or better yet we should burn every child alive that has ever been the victim of pedophilia


Let's make sure we take pictures of how proud we are of the destruction like hunting trophy photos and then bulldoze all the property to the ground as well.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:48 am to
Mormons did bad stuff on godless
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11385 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:16 pm to
The children were not burned alive. The members murdered them as the place went up in flames. They were executed. Instead of surrendering and letting their children lived, they killed them. Blame the Government all you want. Try to play revisionist history about how it should have gone. The members kept their kids during an armed seige and when it went bad, they killed them. Point blank..
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