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re: Waco - the FBI should be razed to the ground
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:44 pm to Dam Guide
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:44 pm to Dam Guide
I wasn’t at all satisfied with David’s response to the first question which was a really good one. He seems to put all the responsibility of protecting the children with the fbi. When asked why the parents there didn’t put the kids interests first, he again, tries to blame the fbi because the kids who were let out early were given candy. I mean, seriously?
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:49 pm to nicholastiger
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Those kids should never have been there to begin with
Shane on the adults that kept them There
You want to join a cult leave those kids with family members
They had no business being there and the cult should have released all the kids
If the kids weren’t already sexually abused it would only be a matter of time before Koresh slept with all of them
Something like 17 of the 25 that died were Koresh's children. Most of the ones that weren't his left the compound earlier. Think the rest of them that weren't his were from mothers that had kids with him as well.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:51 pm to ell_13
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I wasn’t at all satisfied with David’s response to the first question which was a really good one. He seems to put all the responsibility of protecting the children with the fbi. When asked why the parents there didn’t put the kids interests first, he again, tries to blame the fbi because the kids who were let out early were given candy. I mean, seriously?
Religious fanaticism, would it be a good idea to show the kids eating pork if it were Muslim kids. Which they could of did in this case too since this sect was kinda based off Seventh Day Adventists. Yeah, this kind of stuff would anger them. It showed the FBI didn't know how they parented their children, so kind of discouraged them sending the others.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:52 pm to Dam Guide
I’m also surprised he didn’t get a question about his fake marriage to Michelle or David’s wives and multiple kids. He also pretty much admits that he knew he’d sound crazy if he tried to explain David’s visions so he kept that out of the book completely.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:55 pm to ell_13
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I’m also surprised he didn’t get a question about his fake marriage to Michelle or David’s wives and multiple kids. He also pretty much admits that he knew he’d sound crazy if he tried to explain David’s visions so he kept that out of the book completely.
Yeah, I don't get the picture he was fully in, just kinda going with the flow. His newer interviews, he pretty much acknowledges it was fooked up.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:08 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:well they kinda were hurting the kids...
They were a weirdo cult, but they werent hurting anyone.
quote:That was justified. they werent stopping and overpowered local authorities.
As with the Killings of Bonnie and Clyde, the authorities basically murdered
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:41 pm to Jack Ruby
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They were a weirdo cult, but they werent hurting anyone.
except for the kids the were molesting.
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As with the Killings of Bonnie and Clyde, the authorities basically murdered all those people and got away with it.
boy you really are picking some real winners to form your argument around.
You must be livid that Jeffery Dhamer got the needle. He was such a good dude.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:57 pm to CarRamrod
A lot of this is just how weird the 90s were. We'd spent the better part of the half century under threat of MAD. Suddenly free. Japan stopped being our boogieman for economics, Militia groups and Doomsday cults were left out in the cold without man-made apocalypse any day now.
We'd just come off the 70s and 80s where things were socially grim in the cities and gun control in some form was on both sides of the aisle.
We had clinic bombings, OKC, Atlanta. shite was still going crazy even as we hit highs in crime and started coming down.
And the network news was having to finally really compete with cable news. So information was flying faster and freer with just a little bit of different take or view from each source to make themselves the headline leader.
So it was much harder to cowboy without people gawking. Which is a good thing. Because it does force agencies to change methods. Much as we say slap on the wrist. Media helped start this mess but also gave a way to force change. Which is better than you'll find anywhere else.
We'd just come off the 70s and 80s where things were socially grim in the cities and gun control in some form was on both sides of the aisle.
We had clinic bombings, OKC, Atlanta. shite was still going crazy even as we hit highs in crime and started coming down.
And the network news was having to finally really compete with cable news. So information was flying faster and freer with just a little bit of different take or view from each source to make themselves the headline leader.
So it was much harder to cowboy without people gawking. Which is a good thing. Because it does force agencies to change methods. Much as we say slap on the wrist. Media helped start this mess but also gave a way to force change. Which is better than you'll find anywhere else.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:22 pm to Fenwick86
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I don't know about you, but I wouldn't feel comfortable knowing that this was going on in my community.
That is scary. Imagine if instead of one crazy guy, we had an entire major political party that makes up half the country that is armed and ready to go to war and start killing innocent people over small disagreements.
And imagine if those people were just your regular neighbors, as opposed to some crazy cult leader on a compound that everyone knows is crazy. Good thing that’s only a hypothetical.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 3:43 pm to More&Les
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Mother frick the FB
The Ruby Ridge siege won't make you any happier with this organization.
The upper tier of the FBI is corrupt to its bones. I sincerely hope to see James Comey perp-walked one day in the near future.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:00 pm to Fenwick86
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This post was edited on 4/23/21 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:23 pm to Nobelium
Once you defy the FBI (even if you're in the right) they're going to do anything at all costs just because you didn't listen to them.
The Ruby Ridge murders were 100% unnecessary. Randy Weaver was entrapped, failed to show up to court on a charge of sawing off a shotgun and selling it and the FBI, ATF go all guns blazing.
Sometimes you just let people walk away. What was his threat to mankind...guy was a hermit living with his family in the middle of nowhere.
The Ruby Ridge murders were 100% unnecessary. Randy Weaver was entrapped, failed to show up to court on a charge of sawing off a shotgun and selling it and the FBI, ATF go all guns blazing.
Sometimes you just let people walk away. What was his threat to mankind...guy was a hermit living with his family in the middle of nowhere.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:24 pm to Nobelium
A few buddies and myself drove out to the site when we were in school a decade or so ago pretty drunk and drove like 100 feet within the entrance before we saw 2-3 vehicles start coming towards us.
We hightailed it out of there and they chased us for 4-5 miles. I was legitimately scared
We hightailed it out of there and they chased us for 4-5 miles. I was legitimately scared
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:30 pm to johnnydrama
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Go rewatch this scene
That is the reason I have never watched that movie again.
Me too.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 4:37 pm to More&Les
Government agencies and the FBI in particular have always been above the law. The last thing they are ever going to do is admit they made a mistake. I've seen it first hand, a friend had his career end because the FBI/DEQ screwed up and had to find a scapegoat. And the Advocate was only too happy to help out.
The Waco thing was so weird because the Davidian assholes were paranoid about the government coming after them so they stockpiled weapons. And then the government did the stupidest thing possible. What a colossal goatfrick.
The Waco thing was so weird because the Davidian assholes were paranoid about the government coming after them so they stockpiled weapons. And then the government did the stupidest thing possible. What a colossal goatfrick.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:11 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Randy Weaver was entrapped, failed to show up to court on a charge of sawing off a shotgun and selling it and the FBI, ATF go all guns blazing.
The reason he failed to show is cause they fricked up his paperwork and moved the date on him without him knowing. He was going to show. The Weavers got fricked hard. Hence why they got paid and he got off eventually.
The Lon Horiuchi shite is crazy too. Dude killed Vicki Weaver claiming she had a gun when she had her kid. Then the Texas Rangers found spent rounds at his position on April 19 at Waco and the FBI claims he never shot and it was probably left by the ATF... Another FBI agent claimed he heard shots from there and then was forced to "correct" his statements.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:33 pm to SHOtime Tiger
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Jesus Christ. He was a raping pedophile and your first argument defending him is jurisdiction?
An federal government that oversteps its Constitutional authority and murders citizens is a billion times worse than an alleged pedophile.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:42 pm to Malik Agar
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This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:24 pm to Dam Guide
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The CS though, I don't understand how anyone thought that was a good idea. The kids broke their backs from what happened to their bodies from the gas. They pumped in so much so fast, they literally ran out almost immediately when it was supposed to take a very long time period to pump it in. This is a gas we can't use outside in warfare and we used it indoors on childr
It's been a long time since I watched Rules of Engagment. Wasnt the idea they pump the gas to try to encourage the parent to flee with the kids but it was so much in such a small space they immobilized them and made it impossible to escape the fire
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:40 pm to More&Les
Was Koresh having sex with young girls once they got their period like that sick frick Warren Jeffs?
That guy is a total piece of shite.
That guy is a total piece of shite.
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