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re: Tim Burton's 'Wednesday' called 'racist' for casting black actors as bullies

Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:48 pm to
These nervous nellies should go watch any show on network TV and see that White people are always the bad guys.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:03 pm to
Not sure who these critics are or how many of them there are, but it's predictable that they'd get press.

In a way this goes back a long time. I remember as a kid reading comic books and wondering why none of the street gangs or robber gangs they showed were black (they were either all white or had a large white contingent). Even as a child, it seemed different to what the news was showing.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

“I’m not forwarding a comment request this silly to Tim,” Mike Simpson of WME responded.
Love it.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65790 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:22 pm to
The black girl wasn’t a bully, she was the competition, which became a friend, jeez…. Did they watch the series, even?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74245 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:04 pm to
They really weren't Billy's though. Even the mayor's son was redeemed.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47120 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:11 pm to
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Both of the younger black kids are redeemed. The arc for the boy is weak, admittedly, but the siren has a pretty strong redemption arc. I didn’t see it as racist as all.


She totally redeems herself and you see the character's full arc come around after the parent's day weekend. Unlike so many other shows where the mean girls often stay mean up until the very end, and either get totally wrecked or come around and become besties with the main character.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 7:12 pm
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15969 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:31 pm to
My wife and I started watching this show today and so far (2 episodes in) blacks only make up barely more than a 1/4 of the bullies. Most of the bullies are white lol this is a huge overreaction
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70666 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:59 pm to
New speak is an ever moving target that can never be hit.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10600 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:06 pm to
Everything is racist when it benefits them.


Anyway I was thinking about Diehard when Clarence Gilyard passed away and how he was the computer guy, the black cop was the one supporting and basically partnering with McClane during movie, the FBI Johnsons were Hispanic and Black until they needed new ones, and even the black guy driving the limo all back in a major film released in 1988. The 3rd one featured Samual Jackson. McTiernan did Predators co-staring Carl Weathers in 87 (Bill Duke was awesome in it as well).

It made me remember that there were a lot of shows and movies with blacks in 80s and 90s including one of the most highly rated shows ever - The Cosby show. Fox kind of found a niche with shows featuring black characters. It’s hard to not think of that time frame in entertainment without thinking of blacks like Michael Jackson, Prince, Whitney, Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman (even as Spider-Man in reruns of electric company with Lean on Me one of favorite movies), Eddie Murphy, Cosby, Phylicia Rashad, Arsenio (Clinton played saxophone on his show), James Earl Jones, Will Smith, Carl Weathers, Keith David, Whoopi (before the view or whatever it’s called and even being given an Oscar), Vanessa Williams (and the other one on Melrose Place), Wesley snipes, spike Lee, Lavar Burton, Don Cheadle (even before marvel he was DA in Picket Fences and earlier stuff), Blair Underwood, Martin Lawrence, the Wayans family, and so on.

You can throw in Eriq La Salle being awesome with his Afro glow in Coming to America in 1988 along Murphy, Arsenio, & John Amos before obviously becoming much more recognized with ER in mid 90s.

It goes on and on. I am horrible remembering names on the spot sometimes calling each kid and dog before getting correct one, and each time I try to finish I remember another so just stopping.

But since 80s & 90s what entertainment history are people believing blacks were left out of and need to constantly overcompensate to rectify and be so freaking overly sensitive about playing bullies in a Netflix series???
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13621 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:53 am to
Black people need to decide are they adults capable of operating in a diverse World or needy, fragile children who must be coddled.

Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12750 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:54 am to
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Was this before or after his wife rightly came out to defend Rowling?

Man, trannies like to stir up some shite. They are worse than real women as far as shite stirring is involved.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47120 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:55 am to
Think of any prominent black characters throughout the Addams family franchise. I can't think of any. That they're even there, and one is the top of her class, should be celebrated.


But no.

MUST
FIND
REASONS
FOR
RACISM!!!
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:18 am to
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Black people need to decide are they adults capable of operating in a diverse World or needy, fragile children who must be coddled.


I think black “people” have decided and choose the former. It’s progressive activists and politicians black and white who prefer them to be the later
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33510 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:52 am to
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As is OP.

Leave it to Fewer Braincells to show complete lack of reading comprehension
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70466 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:11 am to
Obviously, they didn’t watch the whole show. Those characters sorta started as bullies but all had redemption arcs and became better people by the end of the season. Audiences get invested when a character changes and grows over the course of a season.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102713 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:41 pm to
I watched the first episode yesterday it’s a pretty good show. Dialogue is well written
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38433 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:01 pm to
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Leave it to Fewer Braincells to show complete lack of reading comprehension
So you want to amplify the messages from these lone, woke lunatics. Get their message out to as many people as possible. Got it.
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
16947 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:22 pm to
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"It's racist to cast black people in these roles"



once again, idiots, this is NOT what the word "racist" means. by all means, keep using that word 24/7 though if it makes you feel better.
Posted by WeBleedCrimson
Member since Mar 2008
22009 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:02 pm to
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Let me guess, the offended party is a liberal white woman.


you got that right. That's reporter from NYPost
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71148 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:26 pm to
Don't even bother clicking the link. That's all the article is about. Click bait. Had the author of that piece actually watched the entire season and not just the first episode, they would have seen that their complaints were 100% misguided.
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