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re: The Batman is out now on HBO Max
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:17 am to EyeOfTheTiger311
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:17 am to EyeOfTheTiger311
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I thought he was the perfect Bruce Wayne, maybe not as good of a Batman as Bale was, but as Bruce he fits that character right on.
I think Bale was the worst Batman and best Bruce Wayne while Pattinson was the best Batman.
I think his portrayal of Bruce was fitting for this movie and it was an intentional departure from what we expect. I'm anxious to find out how he evolves over the next couple of movies.
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:40 am to illuminatic
watched last night. What's crazy is it felt 4 hours long. I liked it, didnt love it. Not super rewatchable.
Seemed like it tried to be a bit edgy at times.
LOVED the premise of the clinton foundation being used as a giant money laundering fund
Seemed like it tried to be a bit edgy at times.
LOVED the premise of the clinton foundation being used as a giant money laundering fund
Posted on 4/20/22 at 11:12 am to illuminatic
Why does it always have to be a comparison? I can enjoy TDK trilogy for what it was and enjoy Reeves/Pattinson take on the material.
It's clear that this iteration being 2 years in has been solely focused on one thing, being The Batman and Vengeance, doing what he feels necessary to combat the worst that Gotham has to offer. He learned in the movie that the worst it has to offer isn't necessarily the thugs on the street. He's going to have to embrace the benefits of being Bruce Wayne and he understands that now. I expect to see a more mature and focused Bruce moving forward. I thought the ending narration spelled it out;
"Wednesday, November 6th. The city is under the water. The national guard is coming. Martial law is in effect, but the criminal element never sleeps. Looting and lawlessness will be rampant... in the parts of the city, no one can get to. I can already see things will get worse... before they get better. And some will seize the chance to grab everything they can. I'm starting to see now I have had an effect here... But not the one I intended. Vengeance, won’t change the past. Mine… or anyone else’s. I have to become more. People need hope. To know someone’s out there for them. This city's angry, scarred. Like me. Our scars can destroy us. even after the physical wounds have healed. But if we can survive them... They can transform us. They can give us the power. To Endure... And the strength to fight.”
It's clear that this iteration being 2 years in has been solely focused on one thing, being The Batman and Vengeance, doing what he feels necessary to combat the worst that Gotham has to offer. He learned in the movie that the worst it has to offer isn't necessarily the thugs on the street. He's going to have to embrace the benefits of being Bruce Wayne and he understands that now. I expect to see a more mature and focused Bruce moving forward. I thought the ending narration spelled it out;
"Wednesday, November 6th. The city is under the water. The national guard is coming. Martial law is in effect, but the criminal element never sleeps. Looting and lawlessness will be rampant... in the parts of the city, no one can get to. I can already see things will get worse... before they get better. And some will seize the chance to grab everything they can. I'm starting to see now I have had an effect here... But not the one I intended. Vengeance, won’t change the past. Mine… or anyone else’s. I have to become more. People need hope. To know someone’s out there for them. This city's angry, scarred. Like me. Our scars can destroy us. even after the physical wounds have healed. But if we can survive them... They can transform us. They can give us the power. To Endure... And the strength to fight.”
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 11:13 am
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:41 pm to YumYum Sauce
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LOVED the premise of the clinton foundation being used as a giant money laundering fund
i've seen it 3 times and i must've missed this
Posted on 4/20/22 at 8:10 pm to finchmeister08
I took creative liberty in my assumption
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:16 pm to YumYum Sauce
just finished watching it.
catwoman relationship thing was meh.
loved the car scene and the fight scene at the end.
loved the Se7en atmosphere and storyline. Gotham was perfect.
good choice for riddler. I'd love to see them do Freeze or even the mad hatter.
as somebody said earlier Batman Begins is still #1 for me. I know people like TDK (I do to but mainly for Joker that's it) but I can rewatch batman begins a bajillion times. Never gets old.
I'd rank this as #2. Looking forward to
an expansion of these films.
catwoman relationship thing was meh.
loved the car scene and the fight scene at the end.
loved the Se7en atmosphere and storyline. Gotham was perfect.
good choice for riddler. I'd love to see them do Freeze or even the mad hatter.
as somebody said earlier Batman Begins is still #1 for me. I know people like TDK (I do to but mainly for Joker that's it) but I can rewatch batman begins a bajillion times. Never gets old.
I'd rank this as #2. Looking forward to
an expansion of these films.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 4/20/22 at 11:09 pm to TideSaint
I had very low expectations based upon reviews, feedback, etc. "Not good at being Bruce Wayne." "Too long." "He's EMO." Etc.
These are all arguably accurate. And yet I ended up enjoying this movie way more than I thought I would.
Paul Dano was great casting. He plays unhinged really well. Really liked him in There Will Be Blood. The riddler is really whacked out and menacing and I think this is definitely the best riddler characterization to date.
John Turturro is kinda like John Goodman. He makes everything he is in better. Nice bit of casting.
Ok so Pattinson is a little more brooding and "lightweight" after watching Bale for these years. But he wore the suit well, has a nice square jaw for the mask, and didn't really do much to screw it up.
The scenes that were lit only by SMG fire were legit. As was the Batmobile reveal. Coming through the roof at Gotham Square Garden (whatever it's called) was the peak badass moment. The car chase is a lost art and they handled it nicely.
Commissioner Gordon was more active in this than any other Batman that I can recall, and he's a badass. I think I like this too.
I like that this wasn't yet another superhero origin story. Those are played out.
All in all I liked it way more than I expected. It deserves a place on the shelf by Burton's Batman, and Nolan's first two films. Not putting it ahead of those, and especially not ahead of TDK.
But it's better than the Affleck/Clooney/Kilmer films and the third Nolan film.
These are all arguably accurate. And yet I ended up enjoying this movie way more than I thought I would.
Paul Dano was great casting. He plays unhinged really well. Really liked him in There Will Be Blood. The riddler is really whacked out and menacing and I think this is definitely the best riddler characterization to date.
John Turturro is kinda like John Goodman. He makes everything he is in better. Nice bit of casting.
Ok so Pattinson is a little more brooding and "lightweight" after watching Bale for these years. But he wore the suit well, has a nice square jaw for the mask, and didn't really do much to screw it up.
The scenes that were lit only by SMG fire were legit. As was the Batmobile reveal. Coming through the roof at Gotham Square Garden (whatever it's called) was the peak badass moment. The car chase is a lost art and they handled it nicely.
Commissioner Gordon was more active in this than any other Batman that I can recall, and he's a badass. I think I like this too.
I like that this wasn't yet another superhero origin story. Those are played out.
All in all I liked it way more than I expected. It deserves a place on the shelf by Burton's Batman, and Nolan's first two films. Not putting it ahead of those, and especially not ahead of TDK.
But it's better than the Affleck/Clooney/Kilmer films and the third Nolan film.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:49 am to Grievous Angel
It’s good, not great. Pattinson is solid.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:05 am to Grievous Angel
quote:I think it's the first film version where they're true friends, or "buddy cops".
Commissioner Gordon was more active in this than any other Batman that I can recall, and he's a badass. I think I like this too.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 12:03 pm to AUCom96
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That was a very overrated movie. Pretty, but empty.
ETA: Hard to believe the reception on here of some things. The Riddler was a distant antagonist whose threat was diluted with a very hackneyed and cliche political corruption aside. When he was finally revealed and captured, he came off as more of an insane child than any sort of Se7en style villain.
Catwoman SUCKED. Kravitz was a snoozefest and that "romance" they tried to half-heartedly build with Batman would make a Hallmark movie wince.
Pattinson was decent, but added nothing new to the role at all. It was a detective story in a way, but no big surprises. Everything was clumsily telegraphed.
Better than Dark Knight? Laughable. Ledger owned the screen. Not one figure in this entire movie came close to approaching that intensity. More or less, The Batman was a stretched out, big budget TV episode. It easily could have been done in an hour.
Yes.
Some upvotes are earned. Here's yours.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 4/21/22 at 12:59 pm to Mad_Mardigan
It was clear Reeves wanted to create a very troubled Batman. Even more so than other iterations. He was young, inexperienced, naive at times, antisocial, a loner, deeply depressed and troubled. He didn’t have a mentor. Even Alfred and Thomas Wayne were not mentors in this world. Gordon was the closest thing and he was really more of a trusted ally than a mentor. And he hasn’t known him for very long.
A lot of people didn’t like the Batman/Alfred relationship in this one, but it made sense for the character. Bruce does not become what he is if he would have had a trusted childhood mentor. And there’s definitely room for all of the characters and their relationships to develop and grow.
A lot of people didn’t like the Batman/Alfred relationship in this one, but it made sense for the character. Bruce does not become what he is if he would have had a trusted childhood mentor. And there’s definitely room for all of the characters and their relationships to develop and grow.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 4/21/22 at 3:27 pm to abellsujr
Also I had no clue Colin Farrell was penguin. He was fantastic. For me turning the DC world of late (suicide squad and now Gotham) into spin offs is a lot more exciting than the marvel spin-offs
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 4/21/22 at 4:05 pm to Macintosh504
I liked him a lot too. He was a little silly at times. Even his appearance looked silly. But I think it was one of the aspects that showed the range potential for this universe. A good balance of comic exorbitance and down to earth grittiness. Felt like a graphic novel.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:40 pm to abellsujr
I just finished it…and man I think it basically sucked.
The comic nerds finally got what they’ve been pining for, Batman being a detective and the result…a boring arse movie
Riddler sucked, Danos was really bad and not menacing in the least.
Batman’s monologues also came off like the South Park mysterion parodies of them.
Just not good..,not good
The comic nerds finally got what they’ve been pining for, Batman being a detective and the result…a boring arse movie
Riddler sucked, Danos was really bad and not menacing in the least.
Batman’s monologues also came off like the South Park mysterion parodies of them.
Just not good..,not good
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:25 am to BilJ
This movie has been much more polarizing here than I thought it would be. Very surprising. Even the audience score is pretty high. It’s not even like a Man of Steel polarizing where people didn’t like the portrayal of the superhero. Some people just flat out thought it sucked
A lot of the criticisms I actually agree with. Like Dano. I really did not think he was very good. Terrible with his mask off (which they kind of addressed).
I think it being boring is subjective. Just kind of depends on if you were immersed in the world. Expectations can have an effect on that. Not saying that’s the case for everyone, but it can have an effect.
I said this in the original thread when it was released in theaters and got hammered for it. But I feel like the action scenes were a huge letdown. Almost like they just didn’t want to spend the money to include more of them or polish the ones they had. Let’s just say Snyder is probably depressed by the action scenes in this movie It just did not have a big blockbuster feel.
Had this been The Batman: Season One released on HBO Max, people would be praising it on a Daredevil type of level. But that don’t pay the bills.
Its not a TV show. This was a WB tent pole blockbuster. So some of the criticisms, Im with you. But I still enjoyed it and really liked a lot of things about it. And I do see some potential in the world. The tone works for a huge range of Batman characters. Let’s see what they come up with.
A lot of the criticisms I actually agree with. Like Dano. I really did not think he was very good. Terrible with his mask off (which they kind of addressed).
I think it being boring is subjective. Just kind of depends on if you were immersed in the world. Expectations can have an effect on that. Not saying that’s the case for everyone, but it can have an effect.
I said this in the original thread when it was released in theaters and got hammered for it. But I feel like the action scenes were a huge letdown. Almost like they just didn’t want to spend the money to include more of them or polish the ones they had. Let’s just say Snyder is probably depressed by the action scenes in this movie
It just did not have a big blockbuster feel. Had this been The Batman: Season One released on HBO Max, people would be praising it on a Daredevil type of level. But that don’t pay the bills.
Its not a TV show. This was a WB tent pole blockbuster. So some of the criticisms, Im with you. But I still enjoyed it and really liked a lot of things about it. And I do see some potential in the world. The tone works for a huge range of Batman characters. Let’s see what they come up with.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 12:34 am
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:44 am to abellsujr
this is the thing with comic book movies. everyone has their taste and expectations going in and when they find out it's not what they thought it should be, people are quick to pass judgement that it automatically sucked.
like the guy in this thread who thought this was supposed to be a "fun" movie. like Batman is a fricking happy-go-lucky Marvel IP or something.
"everything sucked about this movie"
no.
no it didn't.
like the guy in this thread who thought this was supposed to be a "fun" movie. like Batman is a fricking happy-go-lucky Marvel IP or something.
"everything sucked about this movie"
no.
no it didn't.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 1:04 am to abellsujr
quote:
think it being boring is subjective. Just kind of depends on if you were immersed in the world. Expectations can have an effect on that. Not saying that’s the case for everyone, but it can have an effect.
It doesn't surprise me. I think lots of people expected a big action packed superhero film, and this isn't that. It hardly has any action. But the film has been well received for the most part. Its scored well with critics and audiences, and the domestic box office legs have been solid.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 1:07 am to finchmeister08
I’m not even kidding when I say this. Batman V Superman changed me forever as a movie fan. Made me understand a lot about expectations and how it can alter your perception. Granted, that movie was not very good, but I feel like it didn’t even matter if it was decent or good. I don’t think anything could have lived up to my expectations. Never again would I ever go into a movie with that much anticipation. I refuse.
I’m not at all saying this is the case for everyone with this movie. I’m just saying these types of things can absolutely happen.
I’m not at all saying this is the case for everyone with this movie. I’m just saying these types of things can absolutely happen.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:18 am to RLDSC FAN
Well here’s the thing, I knew going in this one wanted to be more thriller then straight action move..but I don’t think it succeeded there either. There was no real mystery to it and the “payoffs” were kind of lame, the Waynes weren’t perfect and Riddler was a pissed off orphan.
They also seemed to overestimate that we’d immediately care about these iterations of the characters immediately. Oh Alfred blew up? Eh who cares he’s barely been in this movie I don’t know him
They also seemed to overestimate that we’d immediately care about these iterations of the characters immediately. Oh Alfred blew up? Eh who cares he’s barely been in this movie I don’t know him
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:55 am to abellsujr
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don’t think anything could have lived up to my expectations. Never again would I ever go into a movie with that much anticipation. I refuse
I do the same with vacation destinations. Go in thinking the experience will be miserable and you will usually come out presently surprised.
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