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re: The Batman is out now on HBO Max

Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:52 pm to
so the glide suit was real...

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Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
3675 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 5:22 pm to
Watched it in my 77inch LG Oled. Close enough

I think the streaming aspect is the degrading factor much more than watching it at home. Will buy 4k Blu ray
Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 6:58 pm to
We watched it today. Loved it. Detective Batman, brutal Batman, internally and externally heavily-scarred Bruce Wayne.

I see this as a sort of stand-alone like Logan. Good strong story and complete.

Batman was dark very early in his creation, then again when Roy Thomas and Neal Adams got him under control in the early 70s. They got down to the darkness and took him back to the night stories. They were great. Hate that sold all my copies.

And to those who don’t think the Riddler was creepy enough, imagine THAT motherfricker sending out videos to you showing himself to you in that mask. Or ANY mask, for that matter. It would distress my gastrointestinal system for life.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35875 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:52 pm to
This movie was ok. Way too long and the stakes never really felt that high. Was this supposed to be a coming of age Batman film? Because he seemed to struggle a ton.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:51 pm to
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Was this supposed to be a coming of age Batman film?

I think so. Like someone in here said, it's Batman learning how to be Bruce Wayne in a way.

This movie was like a darker version of the show Gotham, which isn't an insult.

The first hour of this movie is incredible but it really didn't build on it. Reeves is an amazing director. Definitely an homage-y movie, from Se7en to the Watchmen. The first portion was very similar to a non-Snyder Watchmen that was shot similar to a gothic 90s movie.

Ultimately it suffers from what always was the biggest flaw in the Dark Knight: tried to do too much and took too long. Should have been split up into 2 movies. Admittedly, that hurt TDK more than this one.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:57 pm to
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Ultimately it suffers from what always was the biggest flaw in the Dark Knight: tried to do too much and took too long. Should have been split up into 2 movies. Admittedly, that hurt TDK more than this one.


+1 both films are far too long. The flooding in the batman needed to be fleshed out more. We basically saw that whole sequence in the trailers. TDK did Two Face dirty. He should've been saved for the third film.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5018 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:05 pm to
That was a very overrated movie. Pretty, but empty.

ETA: Hard to believe the reception on here of some things. The Riddler was a distant antagonist whose threat was diluted with a very hackneyed and cliche political corruption aside. When he was finally revealed and captured, he came off as more of an insane child than any sort of Se7en style villain.

Catwoman SUCKED. Kravitz was a snoozefest and that "romance" they tried to half-heartedly build with Batman would make a Hallmark movie wince.

Pattinson was decent, but added nothing new to the role at all. It was a detective story in a way, but no big surprises. Everything was clumsily telegraphed.

Better than Dark Knight? Laughable. Ledger owned the screen. Not one figure in this entire movie came close to approaching that intensity. More or less, The Batman was a stretched out, big budget TV episode. It easily could have been done in an hour.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 10:16 pm
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:22 pm to
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big budget TV episode. It easily could have been done in an hour.


Great description. I would say I was a fan of the brutality in this movie though but at no point did I feel Batman had met his match.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35286 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:32 pm to
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people that would rather watch specific movies at home than at the theater, i believe, are sociopaths.
Man dude. This is a little harsh
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:32 pm to
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Great description. I would say I was a fan of the brutality in this movie though but at no point did I feel Batman had met his match.
huh? Riddler beat him every step.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35286 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:40 pm to
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That was a very overrated movie.
I really hate this term personally. It can alter your perception of something. It’s ok if you didn’t think this was the best Batman. I didn’t either. There were some things I didn’t care for, but it was a really good movie. A lot of things were very well done. And the world that was created may not be my favorite, but it was very well established and immersive. Some things in it I didn’t like as much as Nolan’s, but some things I liked better.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 10:49 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51665 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:10 pm to
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Better than Dark Knight? Laughable.


I mean, film is subjective. Some will prefer this over TDK, and vice versa. Others like me, have Batman Begins at the top. What's exciting for me is Reeves' going to get a chance to expand this world. I'm really excited to see the Arkham show he's working on. I've been wanting to see something like that for years
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:17 pm to
I thought this was the best Batman movie.

There are things I don’t really care for in it, but it hits the high notes pitch perfect. I like the menace within Batman and how various people perceive him. I thought the Riddler was finally done right. The car chase with the Penguin was solid. I cared more about this Batman than other versions of him.

And unlike some people, I like the longer run time. Sure, you can chop it down and make it more efficient, but why? I’m cool with living in that world a little longer. Let Batman’s footsteps echo while the menacing music plays for a good long while. I’m not going anywhere.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35286 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:20 pm to
I feel like Reeves created a world that can work in an expanded capacity. A lot of the Batman villains are pretty weird and I feel like a lot of them can work in this world. Good mix of silly comic exaggeration and down to earth grittiness. A lot of potential.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 11:24 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51665 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:27 pm to
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. A lot of potential.


Exactly. I hope we get some of the lesser known villains like Hugo Strange or Professer Pyg.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:38 pm to
On first watch I’d put it behind BB and TDK. Have a feeling it will grow on me after a rewatch.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35286 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:41 pm to
As Reeves said, this is not a Batman origin story. It’s a Batman villain origin story. Which is smart if you want to expand the universe. Batman is in this crazy world trying to keep it together. It’s not really about him.

Personal opinion of the movie aside, it’s been well received and has future potential. So I’m excited.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5018 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:15 am to
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What's exciting for me is Reeves' going to get a chance to expand this world.


The production itself was beautifully done, if still overly monochromatic. He needs better writers.

I think Batman is a dark character at heart, but the show Gotham brought good things to that world, at least early on. These over the top, humorless, all black and gray takes on it are getting tired and Nolan had better stories and acting all around. It makes me miss the whimsical blend Burton was working with.
Posted by EyeOfTheTiger311
Lafayette, LA
Member since Aug 2005
4345 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:51 am to
Just finished this last night. Loved it. I was surprised at how much I liked Pattinson as Batman. I thought he was the perfect Bruce Wayne, maybe not as good of a Batman as Bale was, but as Bruce he fits that character right on.

As another poster said, the car chase scene with Penguin was probably my favorite part of the movie. And holy hell, I had NO IDEA that Colin Farrell was Penguin. I looked at pictures from the movie and I still can't tell that's him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:53 am to
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I thought he was the perfect Bruce Wayne, maybe not as good of a Batman as Bale was, but as Bruce he fits that character right on.

I'm actually a flip on this.

He was great at Batman and shaky as Bruce, but Bruce can develop over the upcoming movies so we'll see how that unfolds.
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