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re: *SPOILERS* Ahsoka Season 1 Episodes 1 and 2 discussion thread | 8/22 @ 8PM Central

Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:47 am to
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:47 am to
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Dave Filoni said to watch these to prepare: Clone Wars S5 E20 S7 E9-12 Rebels S1 E15 S2 E18 S2 E21-22 S4 E13 S4 E15 Really all of S4 is great, and apparently will set up Ahsoka perfectly


Thank you for providing this list of episodes. I was pleasantly surprised at
how much I enjoyed them. The voice acting was on par with live-action drama and not “cartoonish”. Provided a lot of good backstory and different views of events that were already known.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:04 am to
At the end of Rebals, Ezra and the Purrgils take Thrawn into hyperspace. It is talked about a few times that people are generally worried about hitting a Purrgil in HS. They basically established these lanes. No one knows where they go, but it is believed the nightsisters mapped it out for some reason.
Posted by BlackAdam
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:53 am to
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Yeah I kinda wish they didn’t have her get run through at all. Just have her fight hard, get pieced up a little bit and right before she gets totally defeated have Ahsoka pull up. Then have Shin give Sabine the stank eye and make off with the map. No need to Qui Gon her.


Yeah, and a lightsaber stab should be super traumatic. It should cause massive burns, dry blood, and be lethal. If should be like a lightning strike to a tree.

The have seriously devalued the power of the lightsaber with this and what they did in Kenobi.
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:09 am to
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The have seriously devalued the power of the lightsaber with this and what they did in Kenobi.


It can burn through a blast door made of exotic metals, but it will not kill a woman in the SW Universe.
Posted by LSUTitan99
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:08 pm to
Really enjoyed the first two episodes. The quality was incredible, could have been a movie. It is crazy to me that they can do so well with this, Andor, and Mandalorian then bomb shows like Obi Wan.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:33 pm to
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Yeah, and a lightsaber stab should be super traumatic. It should cause massive burns, dry blood, and be lethal. If should be like a lightning strike to a tree.

The have seriously devalued the power of the lightsaber with this and what they did in Kenobi.
This is the first time I've ever heard any Star Wars fans complain about something like this. Lightsabers vaporize the tissue they punch through, like a plasma cutter. But they don't super-heat the surrounding area. From the books (novelizations of the OT), you can wave your hand next to it and it's not gonna be warm.

Your lightning analogy- way off. Lightning dumps all it's electricity into what it strikes, and that then travels to the ground. That's not at all the way a lightsaber works. Oh and btw, lots of people survive lightning strikes...

But on the point of energy transfer- a lightsaber doesn't do that. Both Luke and Anakin had their hands lopped off at the wrist, cleanly. Did not burn or explode their forearms.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:40 pm to
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The have seriously devalued the power of the lightsaber with this and what they did in Kenobi.


Filoni brought Maul back from getting halved. A abdominal stab is a flesh wound in comparison
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:27 pm to
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Scoob
Nah dude. It's just a dumb TV drama device. Even the writers want the audience to think the character is dead, which she should be.
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This is the first time I've ever heard any Star Wars fans complain about something like this
No it isn't.
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by CunningLinguist
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:56 pm to
I loved Rebels. It is my favorite non-movie content out there. It is higher than Andor and CW for me. The first 2 episodes were boring. Lots of table setting. Lothal looked great. I would like at least a quick aside as to where the hell Zeb is at. Hell, he has appeared in the live action cannon already.
This post was edited on 8/25/23 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:36 pm to
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This is the first time I've ever heard any Star Wars fans complain about something like this

No it isn't.
Yeah it is

I'm not talking about guys making videos blasting shows, I'm talking about someone bitching about a lightsaber.

As I remember, they generally were used like katanas, and if you beheaded someone, they were dead. If you poked someone in a straight run-through, it depends on where it's done. Center mass, you probably take out the heart or sever the spinal cord, dead. That's what seemed to be the case with Qui-Gon and Shaak Ti.

If you miss a vital organ, then it's a matter of getting medical attention, which I'd assume was rendered to Sabine rapidly.

The complaints I DID have regarding lightsabers come from the sequels; where someone gets hit with a sweeping blow and it just renders a superficial slash (as happened to Finn). My understanding of lightsabers from the original canon, that should section someone with a clean cut.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:18 pm to
Thought both episodes were great. This is live action Rebels and I love it.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:51 pm to
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No it isn't.
Yeah it is
Did you miss the same debate when they did it in OB1?

Again, it's reasonable to assume she'd die. That's why the writers did it. It's just yet another hack move by Disney, not a well-thought plot point employing assumed light saber science. They don't put that much thought into anything.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:52 pm to
The Force is fricked
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 8:23 pm to
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No it isn't.
Yeah it is

Did you miss the same debate when they did it in OB1?
Must have...
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Again, it's reasonable to assume she'd die. That's why the writers did it.
Anytime anyone is stabbed or shot, it's a normal possibility in a film or show.

She wasn't hacked in half, and she didn't get run through the heart. She took it in a non-vital area, and Ahsoka was minutes from her when it happened.
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:12 pm to
I agree with Scoob here, I think everyone is overanalyzing Sabines’ wound. If we’re diving deep here it looked like she took a kidney stab, and it being a saber it cauterized the wound, no internal bleeding.

Qui Gon took it more in the middle and higher, possible liver maybe lung stab, more lethal.

That was my original point about saber stab wound, it cauterizes everything, but why don’t they pull to the right/left to hack everything else in a finishing move.

Obi Wan’s hacking of that fool’s arm in the cantina is literally the only time we’ve ever seen blood. I think that was something Lucas probably wishes he could change looking back. No other saber hit has ever drawn blood since.

I think it’s safe to say Sabine took it in the kidney at worst, it cauterized and Ahsoka got to her in plenty of time to save her.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:45 pm to
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That was my original point about saber stab wound, it cauterizes everything, but why don’t they pull to the right/left to hack everything else in a finishing move.

Yeah, if you wanted a sure kill you could just curl your wrist and pull back, chopping the victim basically in half.

I suppose a 'deep dive' would say Jedi training isn't meant to specifically be lethal, hence the "elegant weapon for a more civilized time". You punch a hole in someone and take them out of action, but don't instantly kill them.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:47 pm to
So, back to the storyline;

I get the vibe that Shin Hati (Baylan's padawan or apprentice) isn't in love with this whole deal. The way she's cutting eyes at Baylan a lot, and asking "where does that leave us"... not sure she's sold on working with Morgan. And she's apparently doing a lot without getting most of the plan. That might become a problem for them later on.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:28 am to
Just want to remind those bitching about Sabine living through that wound, Darth Maul was cut in half, and fell down a long shaft, and he lived.
Posted by AUveritas
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 5:18 am to
There are some who think Ezra could have fallen to the Dark Side and is the Inquisitor. Thoughts?
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