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Some crazy insider info from the Star Wars mess

Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:08 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:08 pm
yes reddit


I'll post some screenshots, the rest of the info is in the link.












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Disney demanded they shoot some scenes that would have things in it for merchandise. “They fly now” is one of them. It’s also JJ’s least favorite scene. At a November screening of a 2:37 cut, he cringed, groaned and laughed when the scene was on.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:11 pm to
TLDR version - Star Wars needs more gays and trannies and white men are evil
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:14 pm to
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WB is struggling with DC and aside from Wonder Woman, DC is steen seen as a bit of a joke in its current state by GA.

Was this written pre-Aquaman/Shazam/Joker?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:15 pm to
The cut they released looked “chopped and taped back together with weak scotch tape” (JJ's words).

I think most viewers, even those that really liked it, would agree that the edit was paced poorly to put it lightly. I really would like to see Abrams cut.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:16 pm to
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Abrams cut.


My guess is his version has Kylo and Luke having butt sex
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:20 pm to
Im still just in shock Disney bought Star Wars, green lit a trilogy, and then didn’t even have a story arc for a trilogy laid out before filming the first episode of said trilogy.

How? Why?

Baffling
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:22 pm to
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TLDR version - Star Wars needs more gays and trannies and white men are evil


To quote something you likely hate: Impressive. Every word of that sentence was wrong.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:25 pm to
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TLDR version - Star Wars needs more gays and trannies and white men are evil


Uh, Rise of Skywalker is pretty much the opposite of what you're saying, and the linked stuff says the opposite of what you're saying too.

It basically says Disney neutered JJ, sometimes behind his back, to avoid controversy and make things more vanilla. Then there's the idea Disney might be trying to undercut him to keep him from DC.

But nothing about what you said.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:33 pm to
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But nothing about what you said.


It did say JJ wanted FinnPoe to be a thing but nothing was written or shot.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:34 pm to
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“They fly now” is one of them. It’s also JJ’s least favorite scene. At a November screening of a 2:37 cut, he cringed, groaned and laughed when the scene was on.


the lesbian kiss was more cringe-worthy. complete pandering.
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:47 pm to
the movie wasn't great but this is some QAnon level bullshite.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:48 pm to
Meh people are overreacting and looking into this too much

I enjoyed it with my kids. Was a fun 2:20. Nothing more nothing less. I’ve moved on
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
6569 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:16 pm to
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Im still just in shock Disney bought Star Wars, green lit a trilogy, and then didn’t even have a story arc for a trilogy laid out before filming the first episode of said trilogy.

Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
3359 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:20 pm to
Reads to me like typical oppressed creative vs check signer type disagreement.

Interesting to read Disney didn't want to push the envelope too much. Which, really, is in keeping with their movies lately.

Frozen 2 was about sisterhood. Incredibles 2 for all the gnashing about the focus on the mom, showed the power of family coming together instead working separately. Hell even the Mandalorian showed how "trope based" story telling can still work, because, well, its been around forever because it DOES.

Abrams can diaf. He's now got the blood of two, TWO Star based franchises on his hands.

What some enterprising young studio really needs to do is focus on some of these "no name" comic type characters coming up. Thats where the real creativity is these days.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:36 pm to
That opening scene where he discovers The emperor had to be one of them. Some Ruth just seemed off with it
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56255 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:53 pm to
bullshite campaign started by JJ to preserve his soyboy hack reputation after this miserable failure of a trilogy.

TFA was also crap, as are the Star Trek movies. What's the excuse for that? He hypnotizes the cattle pretty well, but if you have more than 4 brain cells, it's total crap.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:57 pm to
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Was this written pre-Aquaman/Shazam/Joker?


I think that’s likely. Still, Disney’s fears are well placed. JJ is the Geoff Johns of film and we all know what Johns did for DC. Multiple times.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:06 pm to
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Was this written pre-Aquaman/Shazam/Joker?


You just listed one great movie, one mediocre movie, and one bad movie. I'm not sure what you're implying here.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
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Member since Sep 2003
55105 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:12 pm to
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Bull shite campaign started by JJ to preserve his soyboy hack reputation after this miserable failure of a trilogy.

TFA was also crap, as are the Star Trek movies. What's the excuse for that? He hypnotizes the cattle pretty well, but if you have more that 4 brain cells, it's total crap.


Are you as miserable in real life as you are on this board?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Im still just in shock Disney bought Star Wars, green lit a trilogy, and then didn’t even have a story arc for a trilogy laid out before filming the first episode of said trilogy.

How? Why?

Baffling

it's going to be a lesson for studios of big projects moving forward, especially with how RJ absolutely fricked over a 3rd movie
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