re: Rewatched The Dark Knight...

LOL...I posted this back in 2012:

Bruce Wayne goes off and trains for seven years to be the ultimate detective, fighting machine. He comes back to Gotham City and defeats Ra's Al Ghul in a matter of weeks. As soon as he is finished doing that, Lt. Jim Gordon hips him to The Joker, he says he'll look into it. In Nolan's universe, it then takes TWO years for Batman to capture the Scarecrow and he's so worried about the mob that only now, when the mob turns to the Joker, is he really ready to do anything about it. In what again seems like no more than a couple of weeks, he puts down the mob, the Joker, and Two-Face, but loses what he believes to be the love of his life in the process and hangs up the cape and cowl as an outlaw, hated and despised. Eight years later, Batman returns to defeat Bane. This process takes about five or six months. Then he retires again.

So, for all of his training and his sworn duty to fight the criminal element in all manner to avenge the loss of his father and mother, Bruce put the cowl on for just a little over two and a half years total and ran away when the going got tough?


I still love the movies, but there are indeed a lot of holes if you want to look.

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This happens so often in The Dark Knight Rises that nobody thinks it's as good as The Dark Knight. See what I'm saying?

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I don’t think that’s the reason people generally like TDK more than TDKR.

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if it's just one issue it typically is inconsequential. But when you get multiple issues, even small ones, they add up and impact the experience.

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The only true unforced and consequential error is Maggie gylenhaal imo

I already mentioned this, they have a sound effect of kids on a school bus when the school buses are going by.

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I already mentioned this, they have a sound effect of kids on a school bus when the school buses are going by.

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Right. That means kids are on the buses, but the drivers could still be his henchmen.

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Right. That means kids are on the buses, but the drivers could still be his henchmen.

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Why would they go to the trouble of hijacking school buses with kids on them? It looks like at least 6 or 7 school buses, that's a lot of work. They just needed some empty school buses to make it look like they were a line of regular school buses.

The cops heading for the bank might have also been on the lookout for a group of school buses that had been hijacked by the insane clown posse in your scenario.

Also, why wouldn't Nolan include a single shot of one of the Joker's insane lackeys driving one of those school buses to establish that fact? Making the stronger choice and then neglecting to show it would be an even bigger mistake. Because the ambiguity leaves him open to the same criticism as if he hadn't made the stronger choice.

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Every scene with Gambol is absolute cringe

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One of the most iconic scenes in the movie involves him

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Nolan apparently learned nothing from Halloween 5

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This movie is widely viewed as the greatest comic book movie ever. He really needs to learn a lesson!

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Every scene with Gambol is absolute cringe

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Bad take. A pretty iconic scene happens with him in it. And he has like 2 minutes total screen time.

that's because Nolan acknowledged Joker was Batman's best foil, he even said 89 Batman errored in killing him off. Joker was going to still be in the main antagonist in the third movie, ledger even had a line at the end about those two being destined to do this forever.

eta: his performance also had a ton of buzz way before he died. His death didn't make them go back and give him a better cut.

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2. While Nolan's trilogy was more grounded in reality....its still a comic book film so yeah you're going to have to suspend belief at times.

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Not that all three are devoid of valid criticisms or flaws, but I think that the trilogy is viewed a bit unfairly in that regard as nobody is going to nitpick the bus pulling in line out of the bank flawlessly in the MCU or Snyder's DCEU.

The entirety of MCU's plotholes are dismissed because of the next one liners from Tony Stark, Thor, Spider-Man, or StarLord.