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re: Re-Watch of Game of Thrones
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:18 pm to LasVegasTiger
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:18 pm to LasVegasTiger
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I forgot how hot Missandei was.
I think she was the hottest one on the series. With PERFECT tits too. Perfect.....
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:18 pm to V Bainbridge
I had low expectations from the beginning. It isn't that hard for anyone to copy paste ASOIAF fire onto screen, the books are written like a script with different POV characters every other scene.
HBO gave these guys free reign to do whatever. Benioff and Weiss just wanted to rush to the end because they had other projects lined up.
HBO gave these guys free reign to do whatever. Benioff and Weiss just wanted to rush to the end because they had other projects lined up.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:09 pm to LuckySo-n-So
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The night king touched Bran and put his mark on him. This allowed the NK and all of his followers to breach the magic spells carved into the foundations of the wall.
1) nobody knew that even if it were the case (that they could pass)
2) and if it were the case and they knew it, bran would also know it and wouldn’t have allowed himself to be the vector of death
3) and if it were the case, what were they waiting for? They could have busted out immediately
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:09 pm to Tigers2010
After my rewatch I sat and said to myself all those brothels in GOT surely did have some good looking hoe's. Think about did you ever see one was ugly? 
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:12 pm to LuckySo-n-So
I've only gotten as far as S3E8 for the first time. I need to step it up and keep going.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:15 pm to Goonie02
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HBO gave these guys free reign to do whatever. Benioff and Weiss just wanted to rush to the end because they had other projects lined up.
Watching them try to develop the three body problem for TV will be interesting to say the least. It’s almost unfilmable with some of the sequences in the second and third books. They do have the complete story this time so no excuses on source material.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:22 am to V Bainbridge
quote:I don't know who is doing Amazon's Tolkien series, but hopefully a couple of these disasters are avoided.quote:
I've been saying since the beginning that these two douches were hacks and riding the coattails of the book series until they ran out of source material.
This doesn't track. If they were total hacks the series would have never have been good to begin with. They aren't George RR. Neither are the army of writers they had at the end of the series. They were excellent at bringing the source material to life. They just ran out of it.
The blame gets placed on them when it really should be placed on HBO and ourselves for demanding seasons when they just weren't ready. The realities of writing, production and the demand for it is what did in GoT and gave us the steaming pile of shite that was the end of the series.
The Tolkien Estate put a couple of stipulations into the contract allowing them to make a series:
* 2nd Age only, no going before/after
* 5 season minimum, if you want to make the show
* No going against established canon. You can fill in blanks, but they can't change what IS written.
That actually addresses some of the GoT complaints:
the tale is finished. So no surprise "subvert expectations" endings. You have to stay in the lines set out.
The 5 season minimum is actually less than GoT ran, but that show also never had a set timeline to run within. I think it might be more of an addressing of Rome; if you start, you need to finish. No rushing unnecessarily.
Based on what I remember of the Silmarillion, it should run similar to GoT on politics- there's a lot of strife and rivalries amongst the "good guys", but with a final victory by the big bad guy. That would be like if season 8 of GoT finished as the Night King takes King's Landing.
They hint and tease that, but piss out, and don't even let Jon do the final win.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:21 am to LuckySo-n-So
Watchers on the Wall is a GOAT episode
Posted on 6/9/21 at 2:41 am to RyanMartin835
shite crash landed at the end and I hate it more than anyone but I’m 10000% watching the new spinoff and I’m sure all of y’all will watch it too.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:03 am to cgrand
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The night king touched Bran and put his mark on him. This allowed the NK and all of his followers to breach the magic spells carved into the foundations of the wall.
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1) nobody knew that even if it were the case (that they could pass)
The Max von Sydow Three-Eyed Raven knew it. The Night King knew it. Bran knew it after the Three-Eyed Raven told him.
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2) and if it were the case and they knew it, bran would also know it and wouldn’t have allowed himself to be the vector of death
Of course Bran knew it. The NK/WW were able to enter the cave under the Great Weirwood tree, breaking the spells that guarded it. This is all spelled out in the episode "Hold the Door". Bran allowed himself to be "the vector of death" because it was meant to be. He used himself as bait in the Godswood of Winterfell.
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3) and if it were the case, what were they waiting for? They could have busted out immediately
Once the NK put his mark on Bran, he and his army of the dead headed straight for the wall. Takes a while to get 100k plus zombies from one place to another. I'm sure it's like herding cats.
I'm not sure what's so confusing for you.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:16 am to Audioman213
I started reading the books back in Jan and flew through the first 3 and then took a little longer on book 4 and now book 5 is a bit of a slog. I'm about 1/3 of the way through now, but I've also been re-watching the series as I've read through the books and I do plan on going all the way.
It's been fun going back and watching those first seasons that were just so good. I'm in season 6 now and just got to Battle of the Bastards for my next episode.
It's been fun going back and watching those first seasons that were just so good. I'm in season 6 now and just got to Battle of the Bastards for my next episode.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:26 am to LasVegasTiger
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I forgot how hot Missandei was.
Best looking woman in the show.
As for a rewatch, I have been thinking about doing one but I can't bring myself to actually sit down and watch them. My biggest disappointment in the show wasn't even the ending; as bad as it was. It was that the High Septon was never revealed to actually be Howland Reed. HBO really screwed up that inevitable reveal from Sanderson when he finishes writing the books after Martin dies.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:22 am to Scoob
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I don't know who is doing Amazon's Tolkien series, but hopefully a couple of these disasters are avoided.
Patrick McKay and John D. Payne. Two guys with not a single credit to their names, according to IMDb, and of course, they have connections to Bad Reboot.
IMDb- Patrick McKay
IMDb - John D. Payne
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:46 am to Lawyered
Of all of the stupid shite Dumb and Dumber did, I’ll never forgive them for destroying Tyrion and Viserys characters.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:50 am to OMLandshark
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eah, I actually really like the idea that the series ends with Dany burning down King’s Landing.
Right. I can buy that. She was clearly psychotic with her enemies at times. The problem comes in when you go SO HARD making her this compassionate leader who wants to help weaker/innocent people and bring destruction to the power elite...and then you completely flip that script in a couple of episodes. It just didn't fit at that point and was honestly kinda stupid.
Probably 95+% of the people she killed in King's Landing were innocent people who had nothing to do with, knew nothing about, or had zero control over political bullshite at the time. It made no sense. But had they spent ANY sort of time shifting her toward that, it could have been a great scene and an awesome payoff...the scenes themselves were shot well and the SFX were pretty cool, but most people were sitting there with a "WTF" look on their face instead of enjoying the scene.
Same with Jaime/Cersei. You go through this whole journey of Jaime Lannister, and even have the viewers turn on him and get behind his character and motivations here and there. And you take the lazy way out and have him still be controlled by Cersei's pussy even to their dying breaths. Just a complete copout and erased the several seasons worth of building upon his character arc.
shite like that is just plain silly/stupid, and took away from what should've been an incredible last season.
Oh well. I am sure I will rewatch the series one day and come away with it enjoying myself. Hell, I don't even hate it as much as most people do. I just was disappointed in it and expected better.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 10:28 am to CocomoLSU
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Same with Jaime/Cersei. You go through this whole journey of Jaime Lannister, and even have the viewers turn on him and get behind his character and motivations here and there. And you take the lazy way out and have him still be controlled by Cersei's pussy even to their dying breaths.
Pussy wins again... Happens everyday my friend..
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:14 am to JDPndahizzy
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Pussy wins again... Happens everyday my friend..
That’s why I believe in the ending of Jaime’s story arc. He was always going to die with Cersei. It was actually mentioned by him a couple of times in earlier seasons.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:29 pm to LuckySo-n-So
Finally finished last night.
I had totally forgotten that Jaime mercy f****d Ser Brienne.
I noticed signs of Daenerys' descent into madness a lot earlier in seasons 7 & 8, but it still doesn't forgive the ham fisted way D & D went about telling that part of the story.
I will give Emilia Clarke credit for her acting during the sequence outside the gates of King's Landing, when Missandei was killed. She actually did convey a lot with just her facial expressions.
Grey Worm should have taken Jon Snow's head. And Tyrion's. What was left of the Dothraki should have fought Grey Worm and the Unsullied for the right to kill them.
Drogon should have turned Jon to ashes before that.
Poor Edmure...
The score for "The Long Night" (Battle for Winterfell) was incredible.
I wanted to punch Jon in the throat when he left Ghost with Tormund.
Never noticed that Ghost lost an ear at some point.
I wish Ser Bronn and Ser Davos had had more opportunity to verbally spar over the course of the show. That would have been comedy gold.
I REALLY want to see a sequel series about Arya's discoveries "west of Westeros."
All in all, the re-watch was worth it, because it was still riveting television for the most part.
And finally..."Dickon."
I had totally forgotten that Jaime mercy f****d Ser Brienne.
I noticed signs of Daenerys' descent into madness a lot earlier in seasons 7 & 8, but it still doesn't forgive the ham fisted way D & D went about telling that part of the story.
I will give Emilia Clarke credit for her acting during the sequence outside the gates of King's Landing, when Missandei was killed. She actually did convey a lot with just her facial expressions.
Grey Worm should have taken Jon Snow's head. And Tyrion's. What was left of the Dothraki should have fought Grey Worm and the Unsullied for the right to kill them.
Drogon should have turned Jon to ashes before that.
Poor Edmure...
The score for "The Long Night" (Battle for Winterfell) was incredible.
I wanted to punch Jon in the throat when he left Ghost with Tormund.
Never noticed that Ghost lost an ear at some point.
I wish Ser Bronn and Ser Davos had had more opportunity to verbally spar over the course of the show. That would have been comedy gold.
I REALLY want to see a sequel series about Arya's discoveries "west of Westeros."
All in all, the re-watch was worth it, because it was still riveting television for the most part.
And finally..."Dickon."
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:36 pm to CocomoLSU
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Probably 95+% of the people she killed in King's Landing were innocent people who had nothing to do with, knew nothing about, or had zero control over political bullshite at the time. It made no sense.
Try 99+%. It would have made sense had the townspeople on mass directly insult her and accept death before bowing before her especially given most those people lived through Aerys, Tywin, Joffrey, and Cersei. Makes no sense on this show. The townspeople have no loyalty whatsoever to Cersei. You have to have the townspeople thinking things were finally going to be good and tolerable if Dany goes away for this scene to remotely work.
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