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re: Re-Watch of Game of Thrones

Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:32 am to
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:32 am to
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There is absolutely no way I could re-watch GoT knowing I'm just wasting my time with what's coming in the final two seasons.
. This right here.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26267 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:38 am to
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the last two seasons were lost when Jon & Co. went north of The Wall to kidnap a wight. Despite going North, the entire series started to go South (<---see what I did there?). Did Gendry AND Daenerys use wormholes to reach the Wall, send a raven, fly what...1000-1200 miles north to save the "magnificent 7"?

Was so dumb

They should have just had Battle of Castle Black Pt II which the WW obviously win. Have Daenerys already there and have Viserion & Thoros still get smoked. The whole bring back a WW to "prove" they exist seemed stupid and having Daenerys come to the rescue from the fricking oppostite side of the map was even stupider.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:55 am to
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the last two seasons were lost when Jon & Co. went north of The Wall to kidnap a wight.

I have never heard a reasonable explanation of why the wight army was any threat at all, if they could not cross the wall. Wasn’t that why the wall was built? Why was the nights watch even needed?

just stay behind the gotdam magic wall and occasionally flip them the bird. It’s just stupid
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:00 pm to
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There is absolutely no way I could re-watch GoT knowing I'm just wasting my time with what's coming in the final two seasons.


That’s why I waited two years. I think it has been worth it so far. I still pick up on things I missed earlier. I totally missed the story about OSHA’s husband the first few times I watched it. It’s fascinating to realize that when the Starks split up to go South in the 2nd episode. (Jon north), that’s the last time the Stark family will ever be together again. Cat will never see her daughters again.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:16 pm to
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I still pick up on things I missed earlier.


When I watched for the 2nd time I was floored by all the stuff I missed the 1st time. I'm sure you would would pick up on many thinks on each rewatch no matter how many times.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11070 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:30 pm to
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In the fight against the Night King she loses almost all of her Unsullied and Dothraki.

Well, until she didn’t.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25866 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:28 pm to
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Well, until she didn’t.


I just assume she just flew back to Essos and bought some more.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
4348 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:34 pm to
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Secondly Dany has no reason to burn down the city in the show

This was my feelings as well. I get that there could have been reasons, but not how they ended up playing out. Once the battle was won, she would have never burned the city down like that. I would have accepted it if she just did that before the battle started, having lost most of her army in the War with the White Walkers (who magically re-generated).
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
22532 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:41 pm to
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The little "kidnap a wight" mission north of the wall was so ridiculous and pointless, especially when you consider that it was all designed to convince Cersei to be reasonable

It was at that point the two bozos made it clear they cared much about style over substance. That’s why they assembled the “A-Team” of badasses together and had things like the zombie polar bear. It looks cool but it was utterly dumb.

I feel S8 was worse because they went through essentially one season’s worth of content in the last 3 episodes.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36636 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:58 pm to
The show jumped the shark right here. Can’t send a raven to Jon? Like hey bruh, just chill for little while I’ll be right back.

Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17222 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:01 pm to
Daenerys showing with the dragon while Jaime and Bronn are talking, honestly thing it may be one of the greatest moments in tv history.

Scored so beautifully like that entire season. Watching this makes you miss and regret how all encompassing and amazing this show was during its peak. Every Sunday night, clear the calendar.

LINK
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 2:03 pm
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2858 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:08 pm to
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any legitimate reason for Dany flipping and going full genocide after she won the war. Jon stops giving the dick and suddenly she's Hitler


I have less of problem with this.
She was set up as Hitler from Season 2 forward:

1)She'd been told since birth that most of the nobles and all of the common people of Westeros loved her family and wanted them back. From S2 forward, she frequently loses her cool and rages about burning [group/people/cities/etc] to the ground.

2) It was a very clear and repetitive theme that genetic madness runs in her family

3) Her narcissism and messiah complex were fed by the Slaver Bay wars(It seems some fans bought into the same BS hype that the former slaves did)

3)The ONLY reason she holds back from burning down cities and committing genocide against the slave masters is because her advisors convince her to cool down.

4)Turns out that neither the Westerosi nobility nor the people want jack shite to do with her unless it involves something in their favor too

5)2 of her "children", whom she genuinely feels are her children, die within a short time frame. One of them is turned into a Wight dragon and fights against her. Without her dragons she is nothing, and she now knows that she is a lot more vulnerable than she believed before.

6)Her closest and most trusted advisors either die or betray her.

7)She learns that her lover is actually the true claimant to the Targaryeon throne and that he is Westerosi, is beloved and respected, and some of her former allies support him.

8) The Red Keep and King's Landing represent everything she's yearned for except she really doesnt give a shite about it and never has. It was always about her and being the Messiah, which she now knows is bullshite. Her snapping is the only thing that makes sense given all the factors.

That said, I fully agree that the follow through was rushed and poorly executed. The Bran thing wouldve worked a lot better with a bit more development too.

I absolutely love that none of the prophecies came true. It wouldve been interesting to see Sam/Tyrion/Bran re-shaping the narrative after the fact to make the prophecies fit what happened. Like how prophecies really work. Theyre always absolute bullshite and conveniently rebranded to fit the results. This theme of prophecies being baloney wouldve worked better if they showed the narratives being rewritten later.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11503 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:15 pm to
I'd need to forget the ending to re watch.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:34 pm to
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I'd need to forget the ending to re watch.

Just watch seasons 1-4. They are some of the best TV to ever have been made. There is a slow decline in the quality of the show over seasons 5-6 but they are still decent. Forget 7-8 exist at all.

By the time seasons 7 and 8 came out D&D were just done. They had checked out to move on to other things and just wanted to wrap up the series to move on. They had no source material to work with so it's no surprise the magic just wasn't there.

I'm not sure what people expected out of them once the books ran out. They were great at bringing the source material to life. That's what they were hired for, not writing the source material itself. Martin takes years and years to come out with one book and you asked these dudes to do two books in two years when they, and likely most of the cast, were burnt out.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 2:36 pm
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8065 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:36 pm to
I forgot how hot Missandei was.

Also, I'm sure it was discussed in the season long threads but did the ending explain why Bran just didn't let Jon stay? I mean your the king, let Jon just chill. I've tried to block out the last few episodes and forgot.

Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2512 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:48 pm to
Benioff and Weiss just wanted to cater to soccer moms and football players so they had to dumb down the tv show. I've been saying since the beginning that these two douches were hacks and riding the coattails of the book series until they ran out of source material.

Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:01 pm to
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I've been saying since the beginning that these two douches were hacks and riding the coattails of the book series until they ran out of source material.


This doesn't track. If they were total hacks the series would have never have been good to begin with. They aren't George RR. Neither are the army of writers they had at the end of the series. They were excellent at bringing the source material to life. They just ran out of it.

The blame gets placed on them when it really should be placed on HBO and ourselves for demanding seasons when they just weren't ready. The realities of writing, production and the demand for it is what did in GoT and gave us the steaming pile of shite that was the end of the series.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36636 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:06 pm to
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The blame gets placed on them when it really should be placed on HBO and ourselves for demanding seasons when they just weren't ready. The realities of writing, production and the demand for it is what did in GoT and gave us the steaming pile of shite that was the end of the series.


HBO gave them a blank check and would of for as many seasons as it took. b&b wanted to wrap it up.

Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:07 pm to
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I have never heard a reasonable explanation of why the wight army was any threat at all, if they could not cross the wall. Wasn’t that why the wall was built? Why was the nights watch even needed? just stay behind the gotdam magic wall and occasionally flip them the bird. It’s just stupid


The night king touched Bran and put his mark on him. This allowed the NK and all of his followers to breach the magic spells carved into the foundations of the wall.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:15 pm to
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HBO gave them a blank check and would of for as many seasons as it took. b&b wanted to wrap it up.

Correct. They couldn't produce the content though. Again, what they were good at was bringing the source material to life. Not writing it. Honestly the short shitty seasons was the best we could hope for. Would you rather have had an extra 2 seasons of slightly less smelly shite? It still would have been shite. Just more of it.
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