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re: Lightyear flops earning only $51 million opening weekend

Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:30 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:30 am to
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Nobody was begging for this to be made. There was zero excitement/buildup to its release, bad marketing, and there's no Woody. This movie had no shot at crushing it at the box office.


Bring in Tim Allen and don’t make it Woke, basically every male under the age of 40 want to see it. If I were leading Pixar, I would plan for it to be trilogy from the start and a Lightyear movie released every two years. The titles for the trilogy are obvious:

I: Lightyear
II: Infinity
III: Beyond
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:33 am to
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basically every male under the age of 40 want to see it.


I literally don't know any who were excited about this movie. Most people thought the trailer was a joke when it first released.

You really think a 2 second kiss between cartoons is what is keeping people away? I don't remember any outrage when Bugs Bunny kissed Michael Jordan
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:44 am to
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think you are the only person not at Disney who thought this movie was a good idea. Who the hell wanted Buzz Lightyears backstory?


They made an animated series out of it instantly when we were kids. Like 1998 if I’m not mistaken.

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And then not even having him voiced by Tim Allen.


Yeah, no shite. Big, big frick up here that likely led to at least a 50 million dollar loss. People on this own board defended it saying there’s a difference between Toy Buzz Lightyear and the “real” Buzz Lightyear’s voice. Tim Allen as Buzz Lightyear is one of the ten most iconic voice roles ever. We all know he was cast out in favor of Chris Evans thanks to Allen’s politics.

This movie deserves to bomb solely for that. It’s ridiculous Tim Allen didn’t voice Buzz in this movie, but maybe he really dodged a bullet. It’s insulting on its face he didn’t voice him in this movie, and the movie is deservingly paying for it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:50 am to
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I literally don't know any who were excited about this movie. Most people thought the trailer was a joke when it first released.

You really think a 2 second kiss between cartoons is what is keeping people away? I don't remember any outrage when Bugs Bunny kissed Michael Jordan


I mean just make it decent. I really think you have a lot to work with, but they fricked it up. Pixar in the 00s would have knocked this out of the park. It seems very simple to write. I’m astounded they fricked it up this much. Just rip off Star Wars and Buck Rogers. That’s all you have to do. They really outdid themselves.
Posted by Froman
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 2:54 am to
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Between this and the Florida tax exemption being revoked, and the disaster of Star Wars, they’ve lit billions of dollars on fire in the name of being Woke.


The movie not making a lot probably has more to do with timing than anything. They went up against Jurassic World, a film with a wider appeal. They also aren’t hurt in any way by the tax thing, and Star Wars money just keeps rolling in whether the movies are good or not. Not to mention Thor comes out in two weeks and will likely gross well over a billion. Even if Lightyear fails, it’s the equivalent of dropping a dollar on the ground and finding a hundred dollar bill later.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 5:42 am to
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The movie not making a lot probably has more to do with timing than anything. They went up against Jurassic World, a film with a wider appeal. They also aren’t hurt in any way by the tax thing, and Star Wars money just keeps rolling in whether the movies are good or not. Not to mention Thor comes out in two weeks and will likely gross well over a billion. Even if Lightyear fails, it’s the equivalent of dropping a dollar on the ground and finding a hundred dollar bill later.
. Keep spinning this failure
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 6:06 am to
A kiss didn't keep me from seeing this movie, Tim Allen not voicing it did. It was a baffling decision at the time and has probably cost them some real money.

Also just kind of sick of giving the Mouse money. Company hates me, yet has no issue bending over for foreign audiences.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 6:28 am to
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It was way more “diverse” than it needed to be or would have been for an early ‘90’s movie. But some of you are acting like there were only white people in Disney movies before now.

Was having Frozone in the Incredibles an example of being woke?

Was having Ramone in Cars an example of being woke?

Some people just want to be miserable. The movie was fine - it was clearly not Pixar’s best effort. But if you go in expecting it to be shitty I think that’s what you will end up finding.


The problem with this argument is Disney is pushing their agenda and making it well known.

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Karey Burke, the President of Disney General Entertainment Content, saying, “I’m here as a mother of two queer children, actually. One transgender child and one pansexual child. And also as a leader.”

“We have many, many, many LGBTQIA characters in our stories and yet, we don’t have enough leads and narratives in which gay characters just get to be characters and not have to be about gay stories,” Burke said.


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"as the mother [of] one transgender child and one pansexual child," she supports having "many, many, many LGBTQIA characters in our stories" and wants a minimum of 50 percent of characters to be LGBTQIA and racial minorities.


I could care less about their politics but their attempt to pander to certain audiences and force their politics into their entertainment I do have an issue with.

I go to movies to escape the bullshite in the real world.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 6:55 am to
The Tim Allen thing I don't see why it is a big deal. Evans is voicing the person the toy is based on while Allen voiced the toy...

Plus it is not like Disney is pushing Allen out considering they have a whole Santa Clause series coming out with Allen starring in it
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 6:57 am to
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Who could’ve thought in 1995 that this prequel for Buzz would have this nonsense in it ?

You know this isn't a prequel right? The BL in Toy Story is an actual toy.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24829 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 7:05 am to
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but RT could have at least chosen a pic of his with a hat on for their profile pic of him.


Why?

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 7:43 am to
Wholesome American Chris Pratt defeats pinko commie Chris Evans at the box office. Lightyear will be lucky to hit $50 million according to Deadline's box office analysis. Meanwhile, Chris Pratt's Jurassic World: Dominion will finish #1 at the box office for a second straight week. It's good to see Evans fail.

Deadline
Posted by Esquire
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 7:46 am to
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Bring in Tim Allen and don’t make it Woke, basically every male under the age of 40 want to see it


Speak for yourself
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:04 am to
Maybe, maybe the majority of their target audience doesn't like their wokeness.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30063 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:05 am to
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as the mother [of] one transgender child and one pansexual child, as soon as I told them they were. Because, like all the other other celebrities and entertainment execs, having an alphabet child is a fashion accessory and a means of gaining social cache in my network."


What this parental monster really meant
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:08 am to
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Wholesome American Chris Pratt defeats pinko commie Chris Evans at the box office.
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RollTide1987


Some of you mother frickers are fit for a straightjacket
This post was edited on 6/19/22 at 9:10 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108111 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:02 am to
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The movie not making a lot probably has more to do with timing than anything.


Yeah middle of June is a terrible time to release a Pixar film with their single most popular character. You do know that tends to be the release date of almost all Pixar movies, right?

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They went up against Jurassic World, a film with a wider appeal.


Does it though?

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They also aren’t hurt in any way by the tax thing, and Star Wars money just keeps rolling in whether the movies are good or not.


Solo only grossed like 300 million dollars. Keep insulting your fans Disney and see how it pays off.

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Not to mention Thor comes out in two weeks and will likely gross well over a billion.


Yeah, because Taika Waititi is directing it, hasn’t insulted the fans, and has earned the benefit of the doubt.

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Even if Lightyear fails, it’s the equivalent of dropping a dollar on the ground and finding a hundred dollar bill later.


Have you seen Disney’s profit margins recently? It’s not good.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108111 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:07 am to
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The Tim Allen thing I don't see why it is a big deal. Evans is voicing the person the toy is based on while Allen voiced the toy...


Oh please stop with this Woke bullshite. It’d be as if they made a Bugs Bunny movie back in the 50s, they found out Mel Blanc was a communist, and recast him. Tim Allen is Buzz Lightyear and one of the most iconic voice performances of all time. Both he and Tom Hanks have refused to do any further voice roles because of this. It’s insulting to my intelligence to say this kind of bullshite.

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Plus it is not like Disney is pushing Allen out considering they have a whole Santa Clause series coming out with Allen starring in it


Yeah, but that’s live action and no where near the iconic film the Toy Stories are.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51532 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:15 am to
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They went up against Jurassic World, a film with a wider appeal.

Does it though?


It's a weak excuse. JW came out last week, and BLY actually took a lot of the premium screens away from JW. It should've easily been the #1 film this weekend.
Posted by midnight_chopper
Member since Mar 2018
637 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:32 am to
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The Tim Allen thing I don't see why it is a big deal. Evans is voicing the person the toy is based on while Allen voiced the toy...


Kind of like how toys based off the real Toy Story movies are voiced by other actors?
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