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re: Just starting Band of Brothers
Posted on 4/28/26 at 1:39 pm to BugAC
Posted on 4/28/26 at 1:39 pm to BugAC
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I still get goosebumps at the end of ep. 1 when the planes are taking off for the invasion.
No doubt, its a good payoff after all of the boot camp stuff, and a great setup for the next episode. Kind of gives you butterflies.
The drop into France while getting barraged with anti-aircraft artillery is one of the most intense scenes of television, ever.
This post was edited on 4/28/26 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 4/28/26 at 2:10 pm to Funky Tide 8
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The best way I know to sum it up is this: BOB is the story of a particular group of men at war. The Pacific is the story of a war in itself.
BOB is based on the book of the same name by Ambrose. He specifically wanted to tell the story of Easy. He had gone to a reunion with some of them in like 1985 or something and really wanted to tell their story and how strong their camaraderie was.
The Pacific is based on two first hand memoirs. With the Old Breed by Bob Leckie and Helmet for my Pillow by Eugene Sledge. (they also tell the story of Basilone, but it is from other sources) But this is why it feels more raw and hopeless and brutally chaotic. It's told directly from these men's perspective who were psychologically damaged from what happened. Those two books are brutal to read.
But that's why the Pacific feels the way it does. it's much more visceral.
My favorite interesting sidenote, Eugene Roe came home, started a construction company off of Choctaw right here in BR and ran it for 40 years practically unknown for what he gave to our country. he died before the show came out.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 2:37 pm to WG_Dawg
Just returned from trip to Normandy. Took this pic inside the museum at Utah Beach. The little card on the left lists the men from Easy who signed the book.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 3:22 pm to WG_Dawg
Oh buddy, just wait until the Battle of the Bulge and a certain late night host makes a goofy appearance.
BoB is perfection.
BoB is perfection.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 3:39 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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My favorite interesting sidenote, Eugene Roe came home, started a construction company off of Choctaw right here in BR and ran it for 40 years practically unknown for what he gave to our country. he died before the show came out.
Man. Imagine the number of people that knew him but never knew his story. Probably watched that or read the book and thought "Wtf Eugene was an American hero?"
The show came out after he passed but the book was some years before, I'm sure he got a little recognition. Hopefully so, but all of these guys seemed like they couldn't care less about that.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 3:50 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Dammit well thanks for this thread. Going to have to start a rewatch tonight.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 4:54 pm to WG_Dawg
Sorry bud. Never had that problem. Band of Brothers is a GOAT series. I watch the series once or twice every year. CLASSIC. 
Posted on 4/28/26 at 5:02 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Babe Heffron singing Bridget O'Flynn.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 5:10 pm to iwyLSUiwy
My favorite interesting sidenote, Eugene Roe came home, started a construction company off of Choctaw right here in BR and ran it for 40 years practically unknown for what he gave to our country. he died before the show came out.
Man. Imagine the number of people that knew him but never knew his story. Probably watched that or read the book and thought "Wtf Eugene was an American hero?"
The show came out after he passed but the book was some years before, I'm sure he got a little recognition. Hopefully so, but all of these guys seemed like they couldn't care less about that.
I graduated HS with Doc Roe's grandson. He wrote a couple books about Easy and is doing his alot to keep all of those hero's actions remembered.
Man. Imagine the number of people that knew him but never knew his story. Probably watched that or read the book and thought "Wtf Eugene was an American hero?"
The show came out after he passed but the book was some years before, I'm sure he got a little recognition. Hopefully so, but all of these guys seemed like they couldn't care less about that.
I graduated HS with Doc Roe's grandson. He wrote a couple books about Easy and is doing his alot to keep all of those hero's actions remembered.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 6:36 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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With the Old Breed by Bob Leckie and Helmet for my Pillow by Eugene Sledge.
You got these backwards
Posted on 4/28/26 at 6:46 pm to CocomoLSU
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While I enjoyed The Pacific, I also found it somewhat of a slog to get through at times (and it's not really its fault, moreso a fault of the content of that campaign), whereas BoB is top-notch television. The Pacific is also a lot more brutal, gritty, and depressing. So the content itself makes for a tougher watch, at least IMO
The war in the Pacific was much less glorious than the war in Europe which was seen much more as a righteous crusade or a holy war. The Pacific was nasty and the enemy was a fanatical almost inhuman force that just kept coming and coming and coming. Almost every Marine’s account of their time in the Pacific is that they had no real hope that they’d survive, because even if they survived whatever battle they were in, more islands awaited. And then mainland Japan and beyond that. There was no glory and no hope, just nasty islands, nasty Japs, and then the best they felt they could wish for was a quick death.
It doesn’t make for a very uplifting and motivating story like Band of Brothers.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:27 pm to Fun Bunch
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Almost all of the actors except for David Schwimmer were unknown, many of them british actors because they filmed a lot of it in England
Was watching Wolf Hall on PBS and couldn’t quite figure out how I knew the actor playing Henry VIII. He was Damian Lewis, a British actor who also played … Dick Winters on BOB. I couldn’t believe it.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:37 pm to Sam Quint
BoB is the goat. The Pacific holds a special place to me because my grandfather was there.
I haven't seen anyone mention Masters of the Air yet.
I haven't seen anyone mention Masters of the Air yet.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 10:27 pm to stuckintexas
Steven walked into a gold mine when he was let go at his last University and moved to New Orleans.
The 506th held their reunions in New Orleans for years on end and many of the men of the unit were on WWL radio all the time, mainly the Priest. I used to listen to them talk on the radio driving to New Orleans between 1981-1986.
The Priest was writing a book on the unit, he is the battalion Priest from New Orleans.
Steve just lucked out and it is Dick Winters that picked who would write the book.
The show and book are totally focused on 2nd platoon of easy company of the 506th battalion.
The role of the first platoon is cut back and the 3rd platoon is like doing a disappearing act.
You can find the letters of these men writing Steve and getting on to him, but the driving force is Winters.
The show makes out that Dike froze in the attack on Foy, he did not he was wounded in the right shoulder, this is when Spears takes over the company.
The show makes it seem Sobel did not jump on D-day, he did and lead an attack taking out a German machine gun position.
Winters when confronted about misquotes and mistakes would stop talking.
Sobel in the end outranked Winters, which may have played a major part on why he did not want to be called up for the Korean War.
The Sobel -Winters battle has more to it than the show or book tell. The sgt revolt was likely planned higher up and the spot light is on Sink being behind it.
Winters was not a fan of Sink and mainly Maxwell D. Taylor who he felt did not give the medals out to the men as he should have during his time in command.
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The 506th held their reunions in New Orleans for years on end and many of the men of the unit were on WWL radio all the time, mainly the Priest. I used to listen to them talk on the radio driving to New Orleans between 1981-1986.
The Priest was writing a book on the unit, he is the battalion Priest from New Orleans.
Steve just lucked out and it is Dick Winters that picked who would write the book.
The show and book are totally focused on 2nd platoon of easy company of the 506th battalion.
The role of the first platoon is cut back and the 3rd platoon is like doing a disappearing act.
You can find the letters of these men writing Steve and getting on to him, but the driving force is Winters.
The show makes out that Dike froze in the attack on Foy, he did not he was wounded in the right shoulder, this is when Spears takes over the company.
The show makes it seem Sobel did not jump on D-day, he did and lead an attack taking out a German machine gun position.
Winters when confronted about misquotes and mistakes would stop talking.
Sobel in the end outranked Winters, which may have played a major part on why he did not want to be called up for the Korean War.
The Sobel -Winters battle has more to it than the show or book tell. The sgt revolt was likely planned higher up and the spot light is on Sink being behind it.
Winters was not a fan of Sink and mainly Maxwell D. Taylor who he felt did not give the medals out to the men as he should have during his time in command.
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This post was edited on 4/28/26 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:25 am to Twenty 49
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Was watching Wolf Hall on PBS and couldn’t quite figure out how I knew the actor playing Henry VIII. He was Damian Lewis
Dude’s got range, hell of an actor.
He nailed Steve McQueen in “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”.
Wolf Hall was excellent.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 12:29 am
Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:49 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Where can I read or watch these?
There are several members of E Company that did not like Sobel's portrayal at all and disagreed with it entirely
From everything I’ve seen and read, including the OG Ambrose book, Sobel was universally disliked. And the show didn’t even mention that he attempted to court marshal Winters not once, but TWICE! So there’s documentation of him being a complete arse to the point where all of the non-coms quit weeks before the start of war. You can’t tell me that he was given too harsh of a treatment in that show, especially when clips are played of the men saying they don’t become who they are without him. And even Nicks says he’s a genius. They were very fair to him.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:57 am to WG_Dawg
As great as BoB is, the best part of the entire series is the interviews with the real guys. They were amazing people.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:40 am to Fun Bunch
I've never watched BOB. Starting my first episode today because of this thread.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:37 am to iwyLSUiwy
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There were obviously very rough parts in BoB but those guys in The Pacific went through legit one hell on earth situation after the other. The show did a great job of telling just how bad they had it
Exactly. The Pacific, if anything, held back from some of the truly horrific stuff that actually happened. I believe it was Sledge's book, but he described instances of cannibalism of the American casualties by the Japanese.
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:58 am to RoyalAir
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Exactly. The Pacific, if anything, held back from some of the truly horrific stuff that actually happened. I believe it was Sledge's book, but he described instances of cannibalism of the American casualties by the Japanese.
I wouldn't doubt this at all. As bad as the experience of American servicemen in the Pacific theater was, that of your average Japanese soldier had to be far, far worse. Towards the end of the war the Japanese high command was sending men to garrison islands in the path of the advancing US and effectively telling them, "The Americans are coming and we cannot stop them. You will receive no reinforcements, supplies, or support of any kind. There will be no attempts made to rescue you. If you surrender or allow yourself to be taken prisoner it will bring horrible shame on your family. You will die in defense of this island. Your only objective is to hold out for as long as you can." Considering there were Japanese soldiers holding out and refusing to surrender still being discovered years after the war had ended, they took that order seriously.
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