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Is this why HOD went down so much?

Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:23 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:23 pm
Showrunner for first season was Miguel Sapochnik who directed some of GOT's best episodes.

He left after the first season of House of Dragon. Think that affected the show?
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1879 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:25 pm to
The dinner scene with the the Valeryons is where I stopped. It’s just dreadful right now.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
49308 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:03 pm to
Watched S1 and was hopeful. Didn't enjoy S2 nearly as much. Was about to pick up HBO again until reports of how bad S3 was being received.

Gonna pass on this one.
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
6115 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:24 pm to
Yes
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61375 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:50 pm to
almost impressive that HBO was able to acquire elite IP and fumble massive momentum, twice
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Member since Jun 2012
18570 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:50 pm to
No tits.
Posted by MightyJoeYoung
Member since Jul 2026
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:55 pm to
Anecdote/specilatiom from Gary Bucehler:

They were having trouble advancing the story after S1. The show runner went to Jr Martin and asked for notes to help straighten out the story.

Speculation is, George never gave them the notes in time, so they had to start shooting without them. Therefore, mass dropoff.

None of these shows have ever gone well once Martin's original text is gone.
Posted by Easye921
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:57 pm to
That's quite a bit different than George R.R. Martins account of events. George says the guy he hired basically quit listening to anything he had to say.
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 9:02 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:43 pm to
That and basically excommunicating GRRM from the set and ignoring his suggestions.

The showrunner went rogue and it's been complete arse since. The first season had promise and it's a nut-riddled turd at this point.
Posted by JinFL
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:46 pm to
As a nonbook reader, still a fun show to watch.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7718 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

None of these shows have ever gone well once Martin's original text is gone

It's not like GOT where there's an unfinished story that Martin would need to flesh out for them

It's a fully finished novel that could easily be adapted faithfully if someone wanted to

I think the real problem is that as the book progresses, the main characters greatly change, and that's not good for a TV series. GOT had the core group of POV characters that carried the novels, and the TV series. But if they followed the books faithfully, we'd barely have seen 1/2 the main cast this past season, which isn't going to work
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15995 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

almost impressive that HBO was able to acquire elite IP and fumble massive momentum, twice


They’ve allowed too many women to run these shows and have told GRRM to frick off at each turn.
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