re: Infinity war reaction and SPOILERS thread

Well, to be fair to that critique, Marvel was starting to get to where they were starting to lose some dramatic tension amidst all the yuks. The airport scene in Civil War was practically a Dancing With the Stars number (with some Larry, Moe and Curly thrown in) so there was some merit to that line of thinking. This movie nailed the humor/action/drama mixture to near absolute perfection.

It's interesting that you mention this, because Stark has already had severe PTSD and anxiety from New York. It basically put his life into an existential crisis where he was faced with events he could not have control over, really for the first time, with him being a huge control freak.

When Strange told him it was the only way, I really think much of that rides on the state of Tony and him holding it together and weathering the storm, so to speak, until Thanos can be dealt with. Though the bit in the park with him talking to Pepper about marriage and kids threw up a huge red flag to me, I think the Russos will ultimately let him find his peace through some act that lets him overcome everything he has dealt with.

I think one of the best things Marvel has done as a whole, was showing that many of these superheroes are still only human and they accumulate wounds physical or otherwise. For so long the whole idea of a superhero was someone who had only one weakness, that which never involved mental and emotional wellbeing, and who overcome all.. and it just wasn't right. Stark has always been the one carrying this burden on his shoulders to the audience, so I hope he makes it through.

At least for me, the outcome that would resonate hugely would be the extreme loss from someone like Cap dying, but the happiness of seeing Tony finding catharsis. Maybe even deciding not to name their future child Morgan, but Steve.

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I personally think that Infinity War did damn near everything right....it is at least top 2 in the MCU. For me, if you want to compare it to Star Wars, the only comparison is ESB.

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Yep. It wasn't a perfect film, but I can't come up with a better way to get all those characters screen time in a 2 1/2 hour film than what the Russos did.

My biggest gripe is with the lack of screen time for Cap and him saying we don't trade lives when Vision said he'd take one for the team. Vision is just a really advanced computer program. He isn't a life.

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When Thanos arrived in Wakanda, Thor had a chance to stop the Mad Titan with his incredibly strong Stormbreaker hammer. The new hammer, forged in a dying star earlier in the film, pierced through Thanos' best efforts with the Infinity Gauntlet and landed in his chest. The move allowed Thanos to snap his fingers and erase half of the universe, which Thor will fully regret seeing as his aim was intentional.

"I would argue that the fan base could be equally upset with Thor, who chose to throw that ax into Thanos chest and not his head," Joe Russo tells ComicBook.com. "Because he wanted to tell Thanos that he got his revenge."

The God of Thunder hasn't been known for his intelligence but acting on impulse and emotion throughout his tenure in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. His choice to act on his hunger for revenge rather than simply ending the feud and killing Thanos without claiming his revenge through dialogue fits.

"Had he gone for a kill shot, that snap would not have happened. These are choices that characters who are feeling immense pain make and hopefully, the audience can learn to empathize with those characters because they can grow through stories," Joe Russo went on. "Stories can teach us things and that we should try to see every choice from the perspective of the character that made the choice."

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I Thor could have shown up and said "frick it, whatever" and I could not have gotten more frustrated with a character after seeing the Star Lord scene.

They were <>this<> close to finishing it right there and he fricked it all up.

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The airport scene in Civil War was practically a Dancing With the Stars number (with some Larry, Moe and Curly thrown in) so there was some merit to that line of thinking.

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Sure...but they weren't REALLY trying to kill each other. Like Tony tells Peter in Homecoming, "Kid...if Cap had wanted to he'd have laid you out." It was a lot of going through the motions there.

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This movie nailed the humor/action/drama mixture to near absolute perfection.

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No doubt...loved it all.

I'm just saying that even if NO ONE really dies by the end of Avengers 4, I'm not going to suggest it was some sellout and that there was no weight to any of it because of that. That's just not a problem I have with these types of movies anymore so than I do when I watch a James Bond movie and...shockingly...Bond never dies at the end.

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Getting the glove off still doesn't really end it right there.

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Obviously, you are right. That being said, it's hard to imagine that group not being able subdue Thanos after the glove is removed, with him losing the power that it afforded him. I realize he was still incredibly powerful on his own, but that wasn't a group of mall cops he was fighting.

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They were <>this<> close to finishing it right there and he fricked it all up.

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Of course he did, though. Quill is all impulse and emotion, especially when it came to his mom and we see that with Gamora. He's just not capable of losing anyone that close and not losing his shite.

As soon as you could see the plan falling into place and it had not yet been revealed that Gamora was dead, you had to just be waiting for what Quill was going to do when he found out.

Yeah...it was frustrating, but it ought not to have been anything but expected for the character as he's been written.

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They were <>this<> close to finishing it right there and he fricked it all up.

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I like the addition of the Strange million scenario thing because you could argue that if they get the gauntlet off, they lose in every scenario.

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Stark has always been the one carrying this burden on his shoulders to the audience, so I hope he makes it through.

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No way in hell he does. He is the most expensive actor plus they had the foreshadowing of his kid being born after he dies.