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re: House of the Dragon S1E6: “The Princess and the Queen”--Official Thread

Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:27 am to
Posted by LPTiger5
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:27 am to
Shocking coming from you.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:35 am to
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Honestly Viserys didn't look any sicker, just older. He was in bad shape at the end of the previous episode, but now it's been 10 years and he's not any worse. I was expecting them to show him getting that new treatment, assuming Mellos is gone and that younger one took his place, but they didn't mention anything.



It's all about the leaches, baw.
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:44 am to
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We are over halfway through and we are still watching passive aggressive positioning and nothing else. Then you have mostly annoying characters and no one to really enjoy watching. No humor. No one likable. I’ll be honest… I’m bored.


based on your recent posts (which consists of baseball, golf, and chess threads), you're probably just a bit of an oddball.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:56 am to
Do I know you?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:56 am to
Probably true but that doesn’t make me wrong.
Posted by sahikojones
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:00 am to
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Honestly Viserys didn't look any sicker, just older. He was in bad shape at the end of the previous episode, but now it's been 10 years and he's not any worse. I was expecting them to show him getting that new treatment, assuming Mellos is gone and that younger one took his place, but they didn't mention anything.


It's all about the leaches, baw.


Leeched his arm clean off
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:08 am to
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for those wondering, there is one more final time skip left to go which ages up these kids (i believe starting in episode 8) and sets the stage for the 'main event' which is what these first few episodes have been building towards.

So how many seasons do they plan for this series? It seems like they are intentionally speeding this season up just to get to the start of the Dance with the Dragons, but why be in such of a hurry?

I mean, don't get me wrong. I have really enjoyed the show so far. But I'm just wondering why they seem so intent on rushing this season through with so many time jumps when you would think there is enough political intrigue and posturing content to at least slow the time jumps down a bit.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:14 am to
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So how many seasons do they plan for this series?


3-4 seasons is what I’ve heard mentioned

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I mean, don't get me wrong. I have really enjoyed the show so far. But I'm just wondering why they seem so intent on rushing this season through with so many time jumps when you would think there is enough political intrigue and posturing content to at least slow the time jumps down a bit.


I also heard or read that the show runners know that D&D fricked up going too far off script from GRRM, and they want to avoid that. There isn’t a whole lot of fluff in the books, so they have to make up some stuff, but they don’t want to frick up and make up too much.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:19 am to
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3-4 seasons is what I’ve heard mentioned


Ok, that makes sense then. If they are only wanting to go 3 seasons (or even 4 I guess), then getting to the start of the Dance by the end of season 1 makes more sense. I was thinking they might be planning on going for 5 or more seasons.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:24 am to
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Welcome to the GOT universe. Nice people not welcomed


He seemed like a really good babby daddy. Too bad Lord Strong didn't propose a union with his own son instead of the frolicking gay.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:25 am to
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I also heard or read that the show runners know that D&D fricked up going too far off script from GRRM, and they want to avoid that.


They've followed it pretty damn closely. The book has very little dialogue. So, it's easy to remember lines that were said. I've had quite a few moments where I realized a line in the show is from the books. A couple that I remember are Daemon talking about the Vale having prettier sheep and Alicent telling Laenor to keep trying, he'll have one that looks like him eventually.

So, they are definitely keeping pretty close to the books while adding some flare. The time jumps essentially have to happen at the pace they are going. They are pretty much covering all that is there.

What is really enjoyable about the show is they are picking the story that happened when it is ambiguous in the book. For instance, nobody really knew if Cole and Rhaenyra had a thing. There were rumors, but the book basically lists the various rumors. They had the one the show took with Cole asking her to run away, but they also had one where Rhaenyra approached him and he turned her down immediately.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:30 am to
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I mean, don't get me wrong. I have really enjoyed the show so far. But I'm just wondering why they seem so intent on rushing this season through with so many time jumps when you would think there is enough political intrigue and posturing content to at least slow the time jumps down a bit.


there's really alot of stuff that happens in the dance of dragons. i'm actually not sure if they can fit it all in properly with only 2-3 seasons left.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:03 am to
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He seemed like a really good babby daddy. Too bad Lord Strong didn't propose a union with his own son instead of the frolicking gay.


He wasn’t bad to look at either. Bastards.

I think Lord Strong truly had the best interest of the realm at heart. He was the anti-Otto. He could’ve easily proposed that union but knew the realm was better off bringing the Sea Snake and his navy back into the fold.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:10 am to
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It seems like they are intentionally speeding this season up just to get to the start of the Dance with the Dragons, but why be in such of a hurry?

They don’t have any source material for those details. And at least IMO, they are avoiding D&D’s mistake of trying to write GRRM’s story outside of the source material.

F&B is written like an ancient historical text, not the ASOIAF novels with fleshed out dialogue and character developments. Where it jumps or glazes over long periods of time with little to no significant events, the show is jumping.

There is more than enough material for the Dance to take up seasons 2-4. And judging by the episode titles for Episodes 9 and 10, that’s exactly what it’s going to do.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 10:17 am
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:17 am to
Yeah. People have it backwards. The show started with wanting to do the Dance. The older actors were cast first. And then they decided to do some earlier stuff, some “flash back” stuff essentially, to try and give more context to the way the Dance plays out. People are acting like they flew through the meat of the plot, in reality they flew through the stuff that isn’t even really a part of the plot this show set out to tell. It was just context.

I guess they just didn’t anticipate people loving the young characters so much.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 10:18 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:18 am to
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Yeah. People have it backwards. The show started with wanting to do the Dance. The older actors were cast first. And then they decided to do some earlier stuff, some “flash back” stuff essentially, to try and give more context to the way the Dance plays out. People are acting like they flew through the meat of the plot, in reality they flew through the stuff that isn’t even really a part of the plot.


Agreed. Season 1 episodes 1-8 are prologue.
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:20 am to
That’s the word I was looking for rather than “flashback”
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:23 am to
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We are over halfway through and we are still watching passive aggressive positioning and nothing else. Then you have mostly annoying characters and no one to really enjoy watching. No humor. No one likable. I’ll be honest… I’m bored.

What a take. This show, once SHTF, is going to be far more fast-paced than GoT was for most of its run. If you can’t appreciate what has happened so far and what it’s building towards, this isn’t your genre to begin with.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 10:23 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:26 am to
Wasn't able to watch Sunday so I watched last night. Possibly my least favorite episode of the season. It wasn't bad, but I was just hoping with the time jump, the story would progress some more. Over a decade has been covered now, 3/4 of the season is complete and the story just hasn't progressed any. People have gotten older but it is really just the same conflict that was in episode one and two. This show has to have filler, and they've done a good job with the characters, and I don't think I've ever said this before but they need more filler. Outside conflict. The crab killer was a perfect fit but they kill him off one episode after introducing him and it ended up being no real conflict. Just hey, here he is, and poof, now he's gone. Here's Harwin Strong, daddy to the queens boys, ok say goodbye to Harwin. Hell even Laena was a similiar character. Introduced in one episode and poof, she's gone. They built up no sympathy for her death and her death was actually pretty impactful in the source with Daemon showing some emotion instead of a lukewarm reaction.

The actress switch went smooth, I never thought that would be an issue, so that was nice.

I like the show, no doubt about it, but I was just a little disappointed in this episode. Looks like next week will have some good drama. Going to be sad to see Viserys go actually.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 10:31 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:26 am to
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Yeah. People have it backwards. The show started with wanting to do the Dance. The older actors were cast first. And then they decided to do some earlier stuff, some “flash back” stuff essentially, to try and give more context to the way the Dance plays out. People are acting like they flew through the meat of the plot, in reality they flew through the stuff that isn’t even really a part of the plot this show set out to tell. It was just context.

I guess they just didn’t anticipate people loving the young characters so much.




It just feels very fast because they're trying to build up a decently comprehensive history before they get into the meat of the conflict.

As y'all have said, I anticipate the jumps to slow down a touch after this season as we get into the inner workings of the conflict itself.
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