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re: GoT spinoff Aegon's Conquest in the works
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:05 pm to dawgfan24348
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:05 pm to dawgfan24348
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little amount of nudity in HOTD
Thanks for making my case for me. You are dismissed.
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 7:06 pm
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:30 pm to LanierSpots
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GOT will be the new Walking Dead. 100 spinoffs trying to capitalize on the main story and all of them will suck
GOT was just so well cast I think it’s hard to top it. House of the Dragon was good but to me didn’t have the memorable characters that GOT had
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:44 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Thanks for making my case for me. You are dismisse
Sorry you can’t jerk off watching House of the Dragon? You do realize porn exists?
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:05 pm to dawgfan24348
Never even saw HotD. 
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:29 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Never even saw HotD
There it is. As usual, you haven’t even watched the show your ranting about.
Of all the dumb stuff you melt about, GRRM not finishing ASOIAF because Hollywood has gone woke since his last book and he can’t write the nudity and violence he did previously is one of your dumbest arguments yet. Wow.
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:54 pm to Boodis Man
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What really happened is the GOT showrunners ruined his ending about bran ending up on the throne, the fans hated it, and now he’s basically re-writing the entire ending and doesn’t know how to finish it
Martin's endings pretty much always suck -- or at least don't pay off the buildup throughout the story. They are always Pyrrhic victories. Have you read any other stories outside of ASOIAF?
Posted on 2/10/24 at 9:21 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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There it is. As usual, you haven’t even watched the show your ranting about. Of all the dumb stuff you melt about, GRRM not finishing ASOIAF because Hollywood has gone woke since his last book and he can’t write the nudity and violence he did previously is one of your dumbest arguments yet. Wow.
I shudder to think what his YouTube suggested videos are like.
It’s like he doesn’t understand he’s in a downward self perpetuating cycle feeding him negativity that forces rage watch clicks.
He has filled the void of real shows and movies with rage YouTube.
Hollywood woke dei stuff is dumb and yes it’s in. Lot of places.
You know what I do? I don’t watch stuff I don’t want to watch that sucks because of forcing agendas and do watch stuff that’s good.
Hell the fact that it’s a huge hit DESPITE how universally hated GOT’s ending was speaks to the show.
The funny thing is he could have railed against an actual continuity issue-Corlys velaryon being race swapped but instead he went off on an idiotic tangent about nudity and torture. The actor who played Corlys was awesome btw and played it perfectly.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 12:38 am
Posted on 2/10/24 at 9:25 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
I don’t need to give you examples. Every fan of the show knows it was always about way more than just nudity and violence. That you don’t makes your larp way too obvious
Posted on 2/10/24 at 9:29 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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you haven’t even watched the show your ranting about
Where did I 'rant' about HotD?
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Of all the dumb stuff you melt about
Melt? Good grief, your sensory perception is truly out of whack. There was no melt on my part. I was comparing 2 things to make a point.
And you pretend to not grasp the point. Amazing.
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GRRM not finishing ASOIAF because Hollywood has gone woke since his last book and he can’t write the nudity and violence he did previously is one of your dumbest arguments yet
You truly are boring. And not too bright if you're deluded into thinking that Hollywood hasn't changed since S1 of GoT to current day.
I honestly don't know how to break it to you, but this is sad. I really feel sorry for you.
Writers and directors are undeniably hindered by woke rules going forward, and for you to deny these changes is embarrassing.
GRRM can't work in the same environment to finish this work as when he started. That's a challenge for any writer, and even more so when in such an advanced age. GRRM isn't a 'young' 75.
But I'm wasting my time with you.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 10:06 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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You truly are boring. And not too bright if you're deluded into thinking that Hollywood hasn't changed since S1 of GoT to current day.
Nobody is arguing Hollywood hasn’t changed bozo
Of course it’s changed, and not for the good. But that has nothing to do with GRRM not finishing ASOIAF. You are the only person on this board that has ever made that argument but it’s the only thing you know how to talk about so it’s not surprising you’re applying it to this. Woke has mentally broke you from having a normal conversation. He’s a fat lazy writer who just cares more about cashing checks and working on anything other than Winds of Winter. It’s pretty simple. If you’re so simple to think that ASOIAF is popular/what it is at is core is just sex and violence then there’s no point in even talking to you about it. If you honestly believe that then you 100% haven’t read the books, and more than likely haven’t even seen the show. Knowing you and your record of talking more about stuff you’ve never watched than stuff you actually did, it wouldn’t surprise me that you’ve never watched the show.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:44 pm to teke184
quote:I never heard about this. What happened?
Given how they treated Barristan’s actor when he pointed out his character was still alive in the books, I would lean toward the latter.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:03 am to The Egg
Me avoiding thread for 2 days knowing exactly who and how it would go. Being bored and checking the thread. Yep, exactly what I expected and from whom I anticipated.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 8:54 am to Adam Banks
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That makes him angry.
Not in the least. I’d prefer they not be so much, but that is not the point I was trying to make.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 9:03 am to iwyLSUiwy
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But that has nothing to do with GRRM not finishing ASOIAF. You are the only person on this board that has ever made that argument but it’s the only thing you know how to talk about so it’s not surprising you’re applying it to this. Woke has mentally broke you from having a normal conversation. He’s a fat lazy writer who just cares more about cashing checks and working on anything other than Winds of Winter. It’s pretty simple.
The Crackpot thread (now on the Book board) started back in 2012. We’ve been bitching about GRRM not finishing the books (on this website) well before his claim of “wokeism” or metoo derailing it.
And folks who were reading the book series pre-GOT have been dealing with his breaks between books getting longer and longer since the late 90s/early 00s.
Anybody claiming it’s because of wokeism has no real intelligent grasp of the situation.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 9:15 am to Esquire
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There is no issue, except you ruining yet another thread for a show/movie you don’t watch. I refuted your nudity/torture claims on the last page yet you conveniently skipped it because it ruined your* narrative.
Didn't skip over anything out of convenience, just didn't read it, until now.
The issue which got all this going was GRRM doing yet ANOTHER work instead of finishing the one thing most fans want him to finish.
It's my own belief that it's likely he'll never finish because he's lazy, doesn't care anymore, isn't motivated, whatever and IN ADDITION to all that, he knows he'll face more scrutiny from the DEI clowns now than he did back in 2011.
I never claimed it was THE major reason, just took a WAG on the criticism he's faced in recent years. Very well could be 5% of his reason to not proceed. Or 1%.0% ! I don't know, but regardless, things HAVE changed, and that's a fact.
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*some unidentified YouTuber
Thanks for reminding us all you have nothing of worth to say on that matter. Zero of this discussion had anything to do with YouTuber reviews. None of it. I have seen GoT, haven't seen HotD, and have been very open about both.
Also, where I DO reference any YouTube channel, I'm always open and forthcoming about who it was and give a link.
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 9:19 am to blueboy
Entertainment Weekly interview
This contains a polite version of it, in which he got his shooting dates for the season and realized something was wrong, then had it confirmed when talking with the show runners who said “your time in the series is up.”
Considering he had read the books, he was shocked because he knew the character lived past that point.
Versions of the story I can’t find at the moment were that he pointed this out to the show runners and was basically laughed off. In wrestling terms, he was treated as being a mark for himself, meaning that he had an overblown belief in his own importance.
IOW, they thought what they were doing took precedence over the source material. True to a degree BUT, if the ending of the story involves characters you killed off three seasons early, you write yourself into a corner.
This is why JK Rowling was on set during the filming of one of the later Harry Potter books and said “Yeah, you probably don’t want to adapt out Kreacher. You may need him later.”, as Kreacher was a plot point for the final book.
This contains a polite version of it, in which he got his shooting dates for the season and realized something was wrong, then had it confirmed when talking with the show runners who said “your time in the series is up.”
Considering he had read the books, he was shocked because he knew the character lived past that point.
Versions of the story I can’t find at the moment were that he pointed this out to the show runners and was basically laughed off. In wrestling terms, he was treated as being a mark for himself, meaning that he had an overblown belief in his own importance.
IOW, they thought what they were doing took precedence over the source material. True to a degree BUT, if the ending of the story involves characters you killed off three seasons early, you write yourself into a corner.
This is why JK Rowling was on set during the filming of one of the later Harry Potter books and said “Yeah, you probably don’t want to adapt out Kreacher. You may need him later.”, as Kreacher was a plot point for the final book.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 9:22 am to BluegrassBelle
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Anybody claiming it’s because of wokeism has no real intelligent grasp of the situation.
I fully confess and admit that his delaying of developing a proper ending could have nothing whatsoever to do with current day Hollywood authoritarianism.
My only point is that, because he delayed it so long, and in light of the criticism he's faced from the woke gestapo, it all plays into him being less motivated to finish.
If he was resigned to NOT finish, for whatever reason, and then all this crap arouse, fine. It's a none issue regarding his particular situation.
But the fact remains, things have changed, and him waiting so long will only make his efforts tougher.
Unless he's fully on board with compromising his vision, then that's ok. George does love him some money.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 9:23 am to Obtuse1
quote:I think it worked out better than I anticipated
Me avoiding thread for 2 days knowing exactly who and how it would go. Being bored and checking the thread. Yep, exactly what I expected and from whom I anticipated.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 9:29 am to SouthEasternKaiju
GRRM strikes me as a perfectionist to a degree, hence the infamous “Mereen Knot” referenced in the TV show as a sex technique.
It is a reference to him writing when the Dorne contingent makes it to Mereen with regards to Dany’s wedding, as he was not sure if it was better dramatically for them to appear before, during, or after it.
With him spending that much time pondering one element, I’m not sure that he’s getting paralysis over how the ending will be taken as much as he’s getting up his own arse about how perfectly he wants the story laid out.
The problem is that perfect is the enemy of good. Especially when you are an elderly obese man who still has at least one more, if not two more, books to go after Winds Of Winter.
It is a reference to him writing when the Dorne contingent makes it to Mereen with regards to Dany’s wedding, as he was not sure if it was better dramatically for them to appear before, during, or after it.
With him spending that much time pondering one element, I’m not sure that he’s getting paralysis over how the ending will be taken as much as he’s getting up his own arse about how perfectly he wants the story laid out.
The problem is that perfect is the enemy of good. Especially when you are an elderly obese man who still has at least one more, if not two more, books to go after Winds Of Winter.
Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:09 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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I fully confess and admit that his delaying of developing a proper ending could have nothing whatsoever to do with current day Hollywood authoritarianism. My only point is that, because he delayed it so long, and in light of the criticism he's faced from the woke gestapo, it all plays into him being less motivated to finish.
So you spend an entire threads arguing a show you haven’t seen adapting a book you haven’t read is filled with Hollywood wokism.
And you argue that Hollywood wokism is the reason that George rr Martin hasn’t finished the series.
Yet the Hollywood adaptation of the series is done.
There is no need to worry about that.
Additionally he has continued to work.
Notably fire and blood for which house of the dragon is based on.
Mind you there is plenty of violence and nudity that satisfy you if you were to read it.
Perhaps they adapted the portion of the story because of comments like yours and wanted people to focus on the story telling and world building.
Not because of any “wokeness” at all
Also. Maybe George is kind of a coward and doesn’t know how to end it without some fans having backlash about the story (ie bran) and he’s scared of criticism
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 10:13 am
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