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re: GoT spinoff Aegon's Conquest in the works

Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:57 am to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:57 am to
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Come on man, you’re not even starting from a true premise


Where am I wrong?
Posted by funnystuff
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 9:44 am to
On the very face of it. It’s a fundamentally wrong assertion
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 10:09 am to
You're not giving any examples. You're just repeating yourself.
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 10:23 am to
I’m a sucker for this universe so heck yeah I’m gonna watch but it’s still fack the fat man for not finishing the books
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 10:37 am to
I'd have to imagine trying to finish this story would be like a song writer going back to a time when they produced a hit single, or album, then trying to get back to a that mental state which allowed them to produce the work in the first place. But they can't recreate that feeling because they've lived so much more and moved on. They aren't the same person as they were 15-20 years ago.

A Game of Thrones was first published in 1996.
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:59 am to
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I'd have to imagine trying to finish this story would be like a song writer going back to a time when they produced a hit single, or album, then trying to get back to a that mental state which allowed them to produce the work in the first place. But they can't recreate that feeling because they've lived so much more and moved on. They aren't the same person as they were 15-20 years ago. A Game of Thrones was first published in 1996


Except the fat man didn’t take a 15-20 year break from writing. In fact he didn’t take a break at all as he’s released other projects and books in the same universe since the last asoiaf book.

What really happened is the GOT showrunners ruined his ending about bran ending up on the throne, the fans hated it, and now he’s basically re-writing the entire ending and doesn’t know how to finish it
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:20 pm to
I enjoyed House of Dragons, but I really hate to see this world get franchised to death to the point that I lose interest.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:51 pm to
He definitely took a break from “this” story. Which is what the whole point is. And the Game of Thrones TV series collapsed after he had reached the end of his own story and stepped away from giving Dave and Dan tips on how to proceed. Then the idiots admitted they had no clue what they were doing in a podcast which cost them a Star Wars trilogy… But that’s another story.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Then the idiots admitted they had no clue what they were doing in a podcast which cost them a Star Wars trilogy… But that’s another story.


One could say we owe GRRM a lot of leeway for saving us from D&D’s Star Wars.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:57 pm to
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The original idea GRRM may have had for a proper ending is long gone. He's too mind fricked with wokeness to even try.


It’s pretty well known that he gave D&D the ending to the major characters. It was his original idea. I don’t trust anything the man says about them “distorting” it after the fact because he lies out of his arse on a regular basis.

What happened was it was a shitty ending and he used GoT TV to test run it. And since no one liked it he’s having to rewrite it.

The larger issue is he’s been stuck in the Meereeneese Knot since A Dance with Dragons and never got out. He lied to publishers at one point about being close to done (even called them in to set deadlines) and then finally had to admit he wasn’t.

D&D may be shite writers but the fault falls on GRRM for it being a shitshow. He stopped providing content for them to use and then wants to cry about it not being how he wanted it.
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:59 pm to
At this point, I would settle for the complete Stannis vs Boltons battle and an explanation of what happened at Summerhall.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:08 pm to
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Meh. Frick George and his made up conquests until he can finish the main story.


The outline of Aegon’s Conquest is already written and published some years ago. A fairly detailed version of it is in Fire And Blood, the same book used as the basis for House Of The Dragon.



The broad strokes were already in the main books anyway by talking about how certain kings knelt to him, how Harren The Black got melted at Harrenhal, how the Gardeners were the original kings of the Reach but were wiped out during the Conquest and replaced by House Tyrell, etc.



The amount of effort that he would have to put into anything like this is not exactly high compared to most other spin-offs which would be created whole cloth.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:12 pm to
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It’s pretty well known that he gave D&D the ending to the major characters. It was his original idea. I don’t trust anything the man says about them “distorting” it after the fact because he lies out of his arse on a regular basis.


Considering how many characters either got adapted out or ended up substantially different from the books, I’m not going to dismiss GRRM’s claims out of hand.


Simplest things to illustrate this-

1. Barristan is still alive in Winds Of Winter and is a POV character but got killed off well before that point on the show

2. Aegon VI never appeared on the show but is a major focus of the build to Winds Of Winter.

That’s an entire major plot line which couldn’t be done because they either couldn’t fit it in or just didn’t give a frick. Given how they treated Barristan’s actor when he pointed out his character was still alive in the books, I would lean toward the latter.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:13 pm to
There are a lot of theories on Summerhall based on what is in the Dunk And Egg books, the supplemental material, and comments made by Maester Aemon in the main series.

It ain’t pretty.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:40 pm to
I want a show about the North. The first men or the construction of the wall.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:40 pm to
There are a lot of scenes from the conquest that would be cool to see, but Aegon pretty much wrecks shop when he decides to take Westeros.

There won’t be much tension.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Considering how many characters either got adapted out or ended up substantially different from the books, I’m not going to dismiss GRRM’s claims out of hand.


As with any character dense book adaptation, characters are going to get left out. That’s just part of the adaptation to screen. And not something exclusive to D&D.
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:27 pm to
Oh God here go with muh wokeism again. George won’t finish the books because he’s lazy or he simply doesn’t know how to properly finish it. Has nothing to with your stupid boogey man or some people whining on twitter
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 2:28 pm to
That’s a stretch. And had they only shut up and not admitted they didn’t know what they were doing, they would’ve still gotten the gig.

And what would’ve changed?

Star Wars would still be trash.
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