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re: GoT spinoff Aegon's Conquest in the works

Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:32 am to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:32 am to
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So you spend an entire threads arguing a show you haven’t seen adapting a book you haven’t read is filled with Hollywood wokism.


Nope. I can tell you read nothing I posted.

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And you argue that Hollywood wokism is the reason that George rr Martin hasn’t finished the series
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I did nothing of the sort. The post you immediately replied to clearly states the exact opposite.

"I fully confess and admit that his delaying of developing a proper ending could have nothing whatsoever to do with current day Hollywood authoritarianism."



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Yet the Hollywood adaptation of the series is done.



Where's the book?

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There is no need to worry about that.


Umm, ok? I guess.

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Additionally he has continued to work.


Correct. While ignoring the one work most fans have been clamoring for him to finish for years.

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Notably fire and blood for which house of the dragon is based on.



Which still isn't ... what are you even going on about?

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Mind you there is plenty of violence and nudity that satisfy you if you were to read it.



Now I think you're telling on yourself.

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Perhaps they adapted the portion of the story because of comments like yours and wanted people to focus on the story telling and world building.



Huh? This is George's own work we're talking about here. The books are more explicit, are they not? That's his style, that's his own work. I think you're getting really confused here. Nothing I or anyone who watches the TV versions of his works should alter his vision one damn bit. If he'd finished the damn series in the 1st place, THEN moved on, all of this would be moot!

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Not because of any “wokeness” at all


Again, I stated exactly that. But also recognize that Hollywood has moved on and changed. Like it or not.

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Also. Maybe George is kind of a coward and doesn’t know how to end it without some fans having backlash about the story (ie bran) and he’s scared of criticism


Yeah, probably. That's the risk when you hand off a series to clueless duo who don't know what they're doing because they're under a deadline.


And?
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 10:34 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 10:57 am to
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My only point is that, because he delayed it so long, and in light of the criticism he's faced from the woke gestapo, it all plays into him being less motivated to finish.


It has nothing to do with the “woke gestapo”. He hasn’t received some deafening criticism over his content. It’s been universally accepted by a large chunk of fans (see the ongoing development of House of the Dragon and now Aegon’s Conquest and Dunk and Egg by HBO).

He regularly shite talks his fans on his blog. He claims he can only write at home, but then (especially pre-COVID) was spending loads of time at cons, traveling, and writing about literally anything else but ASOIAF. Since A Dance with Dragons he has written 10 other books/content about the ASOIAF universe as well as 9 Wild Cards stories. And has done writing for multiple TV shows, Dark Winds on AMC as maybe the most well known example.

It’s clear to anyone paying attention that he doesn’t know what else to write about the original ASOIAF series. He’s stuck. He tested his ending through the show and he doesn’t know what to do with the negative reaction. It’s not that he doesn’t have time or the ability to produce content. Or that he’s scared of some “woke gestapo” ( ). He just is too ashamed to admit he doesn’t know where to go and he refuses to let anyone help him get out of his knot.

You quite simply don’t have a clue what you’re talking about here.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 11:02 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:09 am to
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You quite simply don’t have a clue what you’re talking about here.


I've gone into extensive detail explaining that in fact I do, but you only read the parts which make your predetermined case.


Go touch some grass.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:22 am to
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It’s clear to anyone paying attention that he doesn’t know what else to write about the original ASOIAF series. He’s stuck. He tested his ending through the show and he doesn’t know what to do with the negative reaction.



This. It can be the only conclusion. He’s lazy, yes, but he still would have finished at LEAST Winds of Winter if he had a change up for the final book and ending. But he doesn’t. He feels obligated too to not deviate too much from the show but doesn’t want all the hate for the show to blow back on him if he can’t come up with a better ending than what the show got. He’s scared to finish in addition to not knowing what to do
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:28 am to
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I've gone into extensive detail explaining that in fact I do, but you only read the parts which make your predetermined case.


Your details, again, don’t make any sense in the context of why the other books haven’t been written. This issue preceded the me too movement. It preceded any “wokeness” movement. This has been an issue that pre-existed the show (given the growing gaps between books at that point).

His continued writing of everything but ASOIAF is clear evidence he isn’t afraid of writing in today’s era. He’s put out a ton of content in the last 10 years, as I clearly pointed out. One is even a current show on a major cable network. If that was truly his “block” he wouldn’t be actively producing other content for major networks. That’s evidence all in itself that he doesn’t have an issue working in today’s “woke” era. You’re purposefully being obtuse to push an agenda.

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Go touch some grass.


The irony of this statement is, well, hilarious.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 11:31 am
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:30 am to
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Never even saw HotD

And there it is, once again you bitch and moan about something you’ve never seen before because you’re quite literally an NPC. No original thought to your mind all you do is regurgitate what you watch on YouTube.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:33 am to
I just find it funny that the “woke movement” has scared GRRM from finishing ASOIAF but he’s literally one of the creators of this:

Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:35 am to
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GoT was known for 2 things. Nudity and violence.

there wasn't a lot of nudity in the books, unless theres a picture version i dont know about
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:39 am to
If anything, GRRM is more known for his description of food to an annoying degree in the books than anything graphic.

Being afraid of PETA or vegans makes more sense.
Posted by CP3forMVP
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:42 am to
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Because you're naive and oblivious to what happens in the real world?

GoT was known for 2 things. Nudity and violence. OK, 3 things, if you count dragons.

What's happened since GoT first appeared on HBO 13 years ago? The #MeToo nonsense.

Also, GRRM was bit in the arse by woke nerds (these are the folks who LOVE him, right?) for butchering the pronunciation of one writer, Rebecca F Kuang. A sin of epic proportion.

HUGO award controversy


Virtual attendees noted that in his remarks, Martin seemed to dwell on praising white male writers of old, including some with a history of racism, rather than engaging with the nominees and their work. The Hugo Awards were first held in 1953, but it wasn't until 2016 that a Black person, acclaimed author N.K. Jemisin, won the prize for best novel. She also took home the prize in 2017 and 2018, making her the only writer ever to pull off a best novel hat trick. According to former Hugo nominee Natalie Luhrs, Martin mentioned this feat, but quickly pivoted to praising a white male author who also won the award three times in a nine-year span.


Accused of collaborating with non-inclusive (racist) authors.


Bottom line is that when he wrote these books so many years ago, sex and violence towards women were common place. Far more so in the source material than even made it to the small screen. But because he's taken so damn long to finish the story, Hollywood has changed drastically.

Yes, it falls back to THIS because THIS is what Hollywood has become.


This was literally a thread only about a new show being in the works and you somehow circled back to wokeness
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:44 am to
Kaiju openly admitting there isn’t enough nudity in the sister and cousin fricking in GRRM’s post me too works is not what I had on my Sunday Bingo card. But here we are.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 11:45 am
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:50 am to
But there won’t be enough nudity damnt. Maybe he’s sad he can’t see enough wieners.

Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:52 am to
Maybe we can get this thread back on the rails.

Aegon was 25 during the Conquest. What actor could play a convincing Conqueror?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 12:01 pm to
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What actor could play a convincing Conqueror?


So this is his pic from the Westeros wiki:



And from Fire and Ice:



Just for comparison sake.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 12:07 pm to


He is probably too old now, but I would have picked the guy who played Ragnar in The Last Kingdom.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 12:13 pm to
In a perfect world in the HBO recycling actors universe:

Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 12:15 pm to
Yeah, I take back my suggestion. They should throw the bank at Eric Northman.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 12:20 pm to
IMO he has the screen gravitas for it. That’s the big thing outside of the look.
Posted by funnystuff
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:25 pm to
Hmmm… what about Alex Pettyfer? Not sure if he has the acting chops for that big of a role, but the look feels like a good fit…







Posted by hg
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:20 pm to
Yay, I can’t wait to google even more family trees for this series.
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