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re: Game of Thrones S7 E7 "The Dragon and the Wolf" MAESTERS THREAD NO SPOILERS
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:33 am to 1BamaRTR
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:33 am to 1BamaRTR
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It's a bunch of gibberish thus far.
What? Nah...
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Jaime killed Cersei and was cold and full of words, and Jon thought he was the wolf now, and white harbor... Something about the day made the butt of her grow from the hem, half the white dogs running between two of Hizdahr’s arms.
He opened his door through the edge of the stairs. “More hall go from a milk, with tusks and always thin mud are all a sheep,” said a roaring woman with a rack of feathers escaped.
“I swore. More bloody things. One one cups. When Bran was not Lord commander? Who is not there? Your brother Benjen was? How many good in a castle right you was dead? So lost to my own Service, along with red worm, we had to and a dragon down, and cast a wide hole in the mouth of the tent, glover almost set back to the man and shouting his men in his power.” He was not talking about the benches, as passed to the first spot in the darkness. That shadow itself was gathering then. Catelyn hopped off the ground to one knee, and went to the table. the victor couldn’t the red keep running on course; the King had taken big nurse wild.
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:33 am to OMLandshark
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I mean what's the worst case scenario? Cersei takes Dragonstone while they're up North facing the Walkers. That's no loss to Dany so long as she gets the dragon glass from below the island.
Yeah. I guess she could re-take Casterly Rock. But they made it a point to say that place wasn't very valuable without the gold mines. And the Unsullied seem to have already left before Cersei's shenanigans. And I guess she could re-take Highgarden if Danny and company ever even occupied it. Dorne has been totally forgotten and the Eyrie, Riverrun and the Twins almost forgotten as well.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:35 am to Methuselah
Probably a dumb question, but if the Night King starts burning people with his dragon, he can't raise those for his dead army right? since he burned them?
Posted on 8/31/17 at 8:46 am to monkeybutt
I swear, the few examples I have seen of AI trying to do writing scares me more than any of the sci fi movies and books about AI.
I did kind of get a kick out of the line from the New York Post article about the AI not being able to figure out some of the characters had died so it continued on with their storylines. Very ASOI&F/GoT right there.
I did kind of get a kick out of the line from the New York Post article about the AI not being able to figure out some of the characters had died so it continued on with their storylines. Very ASOI&F/GoT right there.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:05 am to Methuselah
I think she's stuck in King's Landing. Casterly Rock seems useless and I don't think she has the forces to occupy more than one place. There no way she's leaving the Iron Throne. Even though Dorne has been a pathetic storyline I don't see her being able to even entertain the idea of dealing with them or fleeing there.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:17 am to jmcwhrter
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Probably a dumb question, but if the Night King starts burning people with his dragon, he can't raise those for his dead army right?
I don't think it's a dumb question. Certainly the more enemy soldiers he fries, the fewer replacements he has. May have to use the dragon sparingly - against walls, artillery, other dragons, heroes, etc., for just the reason you suggest.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:26 am to theunknownknight
The NK burning the dead would pretty much vaporize them not raise them.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:28 am to Ace Midnight
Question, does steel gain the property to kill white walkers if forged from dragon fire?
Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:38 am to Byron Bojangles III
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Question, does steel gain the property to kill white walkers if forged from dragon fire?
No one knows the recipe for Valyrian steel. That's why it is considered a finite and dwindling resource (a number of swords have been lost in battle, shipwrecks, just through the passage of time, etc.). Could be dragon related because it is ancient.
However, this similarity of effect with Dragonglass suggests a common source. Since Dragonglass is really a type of volcanic rock, and the show's canon is that it was used to create the first WW/Other - then I believe it is more logical to conclude that Dragonglass has to be incorporated into the steel in a certain way to create Valyrian Steel.
There is a conflict arising between the show and novel treatment - in the novels, it is clear and unambiguous - Dragonglass only has effects on the WWs - nothing special against the wights. Melisandre says "fire and steel will do." The show has demonstrated what we suspect (but unconfirmed) in the novels - that Valyrian has the same effect on WWs as Dragonglass. Recall that the only WW killed in the novels was by Sam the Slayer with a Dragonglass dagger.
ETA: They also melt, a la Wicked Witch of the West (WWW), in the novels, rather than shatter.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 9:39 am
Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:43 am to Ace Midnight
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Certainly the more enemy soldiers he fries, the fewer replacements he has
if as estimated by danaerys he has 100,000 soldiers as of now, he likely doesnt need anymore to overrun the continent.
if i'm NK, i roast everyone i see
Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:45 am to Ace Midnight
I was thinking it'd be cool to melt the iron throne and forge those bolts to shoot at Verserion
Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:52 am to monkeybutt
Given that the AI thing seems to have been written at least a month ago, it seems to have nailed the sex on a boat scene (and maybe even the follow up next season):
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He came an hour ago at sunrise, only now the stones seemed to shimmer in a blaze of fear.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 9:55 am to Byron Bojangles III
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I was thinking it'd be cool to melt the iron throne and forge those bolts to shoot at Verserion
Depends on whether or not Viserion is a Dragon Wight or a Dragon "Walker" - if he's a wight, it will punch a hole through him, at best. Maybe enough holes in the wings and he can't fly. Then you have to kill him on the ground which isn't a sport for the timid.
If he's a Dragon "Walker" - then they'll just shatter. We have a lot of questions that need answering.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:12 am to hawgfaninc
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The Night King now has a dragon (thanks, Dany!)
Why not "Thanks, JON" since he was the one who went north of the wall and sent a raven to Dany in the first place?????
Posted on 8/31/17 at 10:15 am to Methuselah
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He came an hour ago at sunrise, only now the stones seemed to shimmer in a blaze of fear.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:57 am to Byron Bojangles III
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I was thinking it'd be cool to melt the iron throne and forge those bolts to shoot at Verserion
I'm pretty sure the Iron Throne is made up of swords of regular steel not Valyrian steel.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 11:58 am to 1BamaRTR
Plus the Iron Throne kind of already is melted. Balerion the Dread is the one that forged it.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 12:35 pm to 1BamaRTR
quote:pretty sure you didn't see my post before that. It wouldn't matter if the steel was valariyan if the dragon fire had the same effect against white walkers
I'm pretty sure the Iron Throne is made up of swords of regular steel not Valyrian steel.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 12:40 pm to OMLandshark
Jon's raven message to Sansa:
Jon's Message
Doesn't really seem to add much more to what we already know from Sansa and Bran exposition about it. But I've seen some sight suggesting it is setting things up for a big reaction from Sansa and/or the lords of the North.
I hope they go light on that. If the lords act a fool they aren't long for the world with the NK on their asses already. Plus, at least three of them are kids and two of those owe their survival and their estates directly to Jon's clemency.
And hopefully we don't get yet another version of the Sansa/Jon, then Sansa/Arya shoe-horned in tension.
Jon's Message
Doesn't really seem to add much more to what we already know from Sansa and Bran exposition about it. But I've seen some sight suggesting it is setting things up for a big reaction from Sansa and/or the lords of the North.
I hope they go light on that. If the lords act a fool they aren't long for the world with the NK on their asses already. Plus, at least three of them are kids and two of those owe their survival and their estates directly to Jon's clemency.
And hopefully we don't get yet another version of the Sansa/Jon, then Sansa/Arya shoe-horned in tension.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 12:47 pm to Methuselah
Jon could have still arranged a marriage to remain King. The plan with the North could be giving it to his siblings upon his death since Dany "can't have children".
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