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re: Game of Thrones S6:E6 "Blood of My Blood" (reader thread) (NO LEAKS!)

Posted on 5/30/16 at 3:32 am to
Posted by Wolf
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 3:32 am to
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Think Margie's conversion is a sham?


I think it is. Initially i thought she really was converted after her conversation with Tommen, but then i remembered her scene with Loras earlier in the season where she told him not to let the High Sparrow break him. I don't think they would have done that if her conversion was real.

I think that she had decided to play along and give him what he really wanted (Her atonement and Tommen's conversion to his cause) so that she had more freedom to make her move when the time was right. It's not like Tommen wouldn't turn on the High Sparrow the moment she asked him too.

As for why she still went along with her deception during the scene at the sept. I think it was a case of her taking stock of the situation in the moment and realizing that her plan was better than Jamie's. The Lannisters and the Tyrell's may have been able to retake control of the city, but there was no guarantee that her and/or the people she wanted to protect (i.e her brother) would survive it.

Their plan was the nuclear option. I imagine she would rather try to scheme her way out of it with politics (which is now an option for her due to her deception)
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 3:42 am to
[quote]Also, it looks like Walder has already remarried, so maybe a wedding revenge won't happen. I'm okay with it. It would be too corny if th[/quote

That wasn't Walders wife it was his daughter. That was Edmure's wife.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 4:16 am
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:27 am to
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That will work so you and the one other guy ahead of everyone else can post away without fricking it up for the rest of the thread


Or you can watch it on HBOGO like any true fan would.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:29 am to


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That wasn't Walders wife it was his daughter. That was Edmure's wife


Nope

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Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:30 am to
I wish the bastard last name in The Reach was Hill just so little Sam would be referred to as Sam Hill

I think Margery is being sneaky and will cause Tom to die hell maybe she kills cersei

Why wasn't tarly in front of the Tyrell army?

I can't wait for the sparrow to die
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65745 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:59 am to
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That wasn't Walders wife it was his daughter. That was Edmure's wife.
No, I'm talking about the girl he pulled onto his lap while he was talking to his sons. That was definitely not Edmure's wife.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43475 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:06 am to
I have this really bad feeling that the truth is Bran made The Mad King mad just like he made Hodor retarded.

Although, I still haven't drawn a connection between the reasoning behind it and the White Walkers moving south other than Bran sharing that vision with the Mad King.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:08 am to
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I have this really bad feeling that the truth is Bran made The Mad King mad just like he made Hodor retarded
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:11 am to
Is anyone else wondering if Jaime will head north at the end of S6 to fight the Walkers? I'm thinking he'll have to choose between helping Cersei at her trial vs. the real threat and he'll go with the ladder (hopefully).

Ideally we get to see more of S3-5 Jaime towards the end of this season since he won't be with Cersei.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:14 am to
Let what go?

You have no clue. These are not spoiled within books unless you have hidden pages of Winds of Winter laying around somewhere. Plus, im simply going out how D&D is using the flashback events.

Its completely asinine to say this isn't a possibility.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:19 am to
If the show does that, I doubt the books do. Targryens could be great or mad, not much in between.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52325 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:19 am to
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Let what go?

You have no clue. These are not spoiled within books unless you have hidden pages of Winds of Winter laying around somewhere. Plus, im simply going out how D&D is using the flashback events.

Its completely asinine to say this isn't a possibility.


Aerys went mad on his own.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43475 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:22 am to
While it may be true that he was very paranoid, especially after Tywin left Kings Landing for awhile. One could say there is a possibility he did not go full crazy, like BURN THEM ALL crazy, until he saw the events of the future.

Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:23 am to
Man the Hodors really are basically only in this show for violence and titties huh?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:24 am to
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I have this really bad feeling that the truth is Bran made The Mad King mad just like he made Hodor retarded.

I don't. I have a feeling that the point of the Mad King/Jamie vision is going to be to reveal to Bran that wildfire might be a nice weapon to use in the War to Come.

It would be ridiculous if they have him mess up yet another person like that.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:31 am to
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While it may be true that he was very paranoid, especially after Tywin left Kings Landing for awhile. One could say there is a possibility he did not go full crazy, like BURN THEM ALL crazy, until he saw the events of the future.



No. I really dislike this theory because its just such a cop out for him. Aerys went insane because he was the product of massive incest over generations. He wasnt the first mad Targ king or queen either. Like others, he was obsessed with his dragons and wildfire. He had the city filled with the stuff to burn everyone at once if he wanted. With the enemy in the city, he decided to see them all burn rather than give it up. I think he even though he would be immune to the fire or rise as a dragon when it burned him.

Either way, Jamie could not let that happen as it was his families army taking the city and it was insane in the first place. So he killed the king. Kingslayer
Posted by GurleyGirl
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:37 am to
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quote:
Let what go?

You have no clue. These are not spoiled within books unless you have hidden pages of Winds of Winter laying around somewhere. Plus, im simply going out how D&D is using the flashback events.

Its completely asinine to say this isn't a possibility.


Aerys went mad on his own.



The possibility of Bran's influence on Aerys is a reasonable conjecture given what happened to Hodor but considering the Targaryen history of inbreeding and madness, it would seem more likely that Aerys was simply a product of screwed up genetics.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33214 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:37 am to
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I have this really bad feeling that the truth is Bran made The Mad King mad just like he made Hodor retarded.

I did find it interesting they kept showing Aerys screaming "burn them all!" And then either white walkers or COTF, I think there's some kind of connection
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:41 am to
I like to think of myself as a Hodor that pays close attention but one thing in this thread I cannot remember. What is Jojen paste?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:43 am to
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The possibility of Bran's influence on Aerys is a reasonable conjecture given what happened to Hodor but considering the Targaryen history of inbreeding and madness, it would seem more likely that Aerys was simply a product of screwed up genetics.



Once you go down that road, where does it end? Hodor wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed from the start, and there in lies the tragedy of his character. This needs to be a one time thing.

If Bran is responsible for Aerys madness, then he could be responsible for literally anything. Tywin being a sociopath, Ned being obsessed with his honor, Rhaegar taking Lyanna, etc. Seriously, you can not start that. Aerys was just an a-hole and was responsible for his own madness.
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