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re: Game of Thrones S5:E9:"The Dance of Dragons", BOOK READERS

Posted on 6/5/15 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 5:36 pm to
Robb didn't have any pov chapters and thank the gods for no more catelyn pov
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:07 pm to
He did us all a favor by killing Cat...
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:15 pm to
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No way. Not after what he just witnessed.
Won't make a difference. They don't kill him because of the wildlings. They kill him for breaking his vows. After what they saw, having Jon leave them to go to Winterfell actually makes it more of a betrayal.

If they don't do the pink letter on the show or if Jon doesn't break his vows in some other way, the Lone Knifeman theory makes sense.
Posted by ffishstik
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:18 pm to
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He did us all a favor by killing Cat...


...and SHE didn't even stay dead. My point exactly.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:24 pm to
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Holy shite. I didn't even think about that, but they could easily set that up to put it back in line with the books. He just finds out from Theon or Sansa instead of Manderly. Yeah but what incentive does he have in the show to go after Rickon? For a Stark to hold Winterfell like they offered snow? Seems easier to prop Sansa up if that's who tells him about Rickon Also, none of those people have a clue where Rickon is, unlike Manderly did


We don't know what family the old lady that kept trying to help Sansa and reminding her "The North Remembers" is from.

She could of been put there by a family as a "spy" or could be part of a main Northern family. No matter what she has/had to be "reporting" to someone. It's not like she's just randomly by herself telling Sansa to light a candle without know someone would come help
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:28 pm to
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Am I the only one thinking that Ollie is the sole perpetrator in the stabbing of Jon? I think this now too. Allister had gained respect and a good position in the watch. The Watchmen with Jon are going to tell a story that will change the entire direction of the show from this point forward. When you have an army of zombies coming for you, geopolitics is very secondary. I think Stannis' army is defeated and falls back to Castly Black to help the Nights watch, and his fleet and survivors bring the tale of the White Walkers south.


I'm kinda thinking he is too. It's another mutiny if they all do it, and who is the leader of that? It'd have to be Thorne because we don't know of another major NW leader.

If it's just Ollie are they gonna try to chop his head off, and Jon comes back to save him?

What if it's a group? What happens to those guys when Jon comes back?

Jon always comes back!
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:28 pm to
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So who makes the call?


Arya herself
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:30 pm to
She can't ever leave her "Starkness". It will be her undoing in the end.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:32 pm to
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That divorce wasn't really her fault ;lol:

Dude, she wouldn't even give him none on their wedding night. Having that imp dick probably wouldn't have hurt near as bad taking her virginity as Ramsey going freaking full blown psycho in her arse (and knowing Ramsey, probably in her arse).
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:38 pm to
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We don't know what family the old lady that kept trying to help Sansa and reminding her "The North Remembers" is from.

She could of been put there by a family as a "spy" or could be part of a main Northern family. No matter what she has/had to be "reporting" to someone. It's not like she's just randomly by herself telling Sansa to light a candle without know someone would come help


She's not really telling anyone anything anymore.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:43 pm to
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Dude, she wouldn't even give him none on their wedding night. Having that imp dick probably wouldn't have hurt near as bad taking her virginity as Ramsey going freaking full blown psycho in her arse (and knowing Ramsey, probably in her arse).


Again, her not fricking Tyrion has nothing to do with their marriage failing

The whole "Cercei thinks they killed Joffery" thing was more of the issue
Posted by putt23
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:44 pm to
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She's not really telling anyone anything anymore.


that is true
Posted by Warfarer
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:46 pm to
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Am I the only one thinking that Ollie is the sole perpetrator in the stabbing of Jon?


I think this now too.
Allister had gained respect and a good position in the watch.
The Watchmen with Jon are going to tell a story that will change the entire direction of the show from this point forward.


I said this in last week's episode thread. Sam telling ollie that sometimes you have to follow your gut even if everyone else thinks it's wrong is basically telling you that it will happen. I just don't see Allister messing with Jon now that he has seen what he is capable of and there isn't anyone else that could gather a group to oppose Jon. I could see Ollie putting an arrow through his heart while he is giving a speech to the Night's Watch about what happened.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:52 pm to
I think someone needs to investigate the Titus Pullo guy in the other threads

Same guy who said he came up with the R+L= J thing by himself and is now spouting off about Ollie killing Jon

It's circumstantial, but kind of sketch
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 6:59 pm to
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Same guy who said he came up with the R+L= J thing by himself


I don't read closely enough to have ever thought of it myself and I haven't seen anything in the show that would lead me to it. Yes, there are hints that there is more to Jon than some random slut that Ned fricked while in war but nothing to link those bunch without hearing it before.

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now spouting off about Ollie killing Jon


They have really been telegraphing it of late. I would honestly be shocked if it doesn't happen and mirrors the way Ygritte died.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 7:01 pm to
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I think someone needs to investigate the Titus Pullo guy in the other threads

Same guy who said he came up with the R+L= J thing by himself and is now spouting off about Ollie killing Jon

It's circumstantial, but kind of sketch
going post this in hodor thread so he can start freaking out again
Posted by LSUSilverfox
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 7:18 pm to
You don't think that by you posting that, it confirms Jon snow does die?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 7:21 pm to
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They have really been telegraphing it of late. I would honestly be shocked if it doesn't happen and mirrors the way Ygritte died.

Yeah, I would honestly be worried if someone didn't think that was what is about to happen. The show has been beating us over the head on that one.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44932 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 7:42 pm to
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She can't ever leave her "Starkness". It will be her undoing in the end.


Figured as much when she didn't ditch Needle.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 8:41 pm to
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Meryn Trant's a goner



From the wiki

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they only assassinate targets they have been hired to kill and may not choose who is worthy of the 'gift' by themselves.


So who makes the call?

Well, that's pretty much the underpinning of her whole arc. Can she fit in and be a Faceless Man and kill strictly by the rules of their order and on their directions or does her ties to her family and vengeance win out. (Odds are pretty high it's the latter I think).

As to who makes the call: A man makes the call. But a girl will not necessarily follow the call in the long run. It is all the same to the Many Faced God after all.
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